EVE General Discussion

Tippia has been wheeled out. You are doomed.

How and why you're wrong has already been described.

Your problem is that you fail to realise what the post is a counter argument to, and why it contains all the counters required for the job.


It makes complete sense. You just refuse to grasp why it needs to happen that way.

YAY TIPPIA! :D

I wondered where you are just ten minutes ago!

(now i have to check your posting history)

It doesn't make sense because your understanding of the subject doesn't make sense, you use webs to keep another player (regardless of size) in warp disruption range (or outside of a structures shields/docking range, as other examples).

Another use for webs is in fleet warfare, lots of times, a fleet is "aligned out", if you can web (and warp disrupt) someone, eventually the fleet will leave them behind, and now being outside of logistics support range, he will die. Without Webs (and in some case scrams) that would never happen.

The 'point defense' stuff you talk about in your OP wouldn't do any of that, meaning that fights as we know them wouldn't even be possible.

It remains to be seen whether or not you are capable of learning. So far,it does not seem so.

You are being unusually awesome with your advice today. I quite like it. Not convinced OP is listening mind.

Yeah, please don't use "bro" when addressing me. It makes me cringe...truly.

Secondly, I came into this thread with opinions that were mostly positive, but you and a few others choose to focus on the few negative ones and turned this thread into a school yard.

Thirdly, get over yourself. It's just a video game. It's not Encyclopedia Galactica. It can be figured out in less than 8 years.

Fourthly, I understand perfectly the purpose of webbers in both PvE and PvP (actually did the "research" that was mentioned), and my opinion remains unchanged.

It's a game mechanic that could easily be replaced with something more sensible like EM pulse rockets that can disable engines, or God forbid, giving the combat system a "Welcome to the 21st century.." makeover by giving the players the ability to target individual modules of the enemy's ship...

You just shoot enemy's engines and he won't be going anywhere.

Current methods of point and click immobilization are, IN MY HUMBLE OPINION, skill-less, utterly redundant and silly-looking.

Again, these are just opinions from my limited experience, as you have profusely pointed out, so I guess I'll see you in seven years when I'll apparently have earned the right to discuss a game's features in the said game's Forum without getting ostracized.

Expect no more replies of mine in this thread.

I'll go talk to a wall instead.

My take: TO WIKIPEDIA!!

You are right that it takes no skill to activate modules.

But knowing when... not panicking ...
... not clicking the wrong one (oh look, does take skill) ...
... knowing your engagement range blindly just by looking into space ...
... and so many other things.


Yeah sorry but you have no ground for a proper opinion yet,
because you lack the essentials. Experience.

Practise > Theory. Theory can't teach you practise,
but practise can teach you theory.

Also... Tippia abandoned GD for the whole month of march
to instead post in the UI Icon devblog thread.

YOU DIDN'T EVEN SAY HI JUST ONCE! :(

Funnily enough, the longer you play, the more you understand the falsehood in this… It's almost Socratic in how the interdependence of the game creates a deeper fascination with age.


…and those purposes are…? If you say “reduce speed”, then no, you haven't quite understood it.

e: I guess that, since you've supposedly taken your ball and gone home, it's only fair that I explain the purposes to you. You might accidentally learn something.

The purpose of the webbers in PvE is the same as everything else in PvE: to create money. The purpose of the webbers in PvP is the same as everything else in PvP: to destroy goods (although there is also a couple of emergent-gameplay cases where it will inhibit the destruction of goods… but that's EVE for you). In PvE, it does this by acting as a mechanism for altering your damage calculations and by making your point defence weapons more efficient (you know, those two details you poo-pooed as not really existing?). In PvP, they do the same, but they are more relevant in how they reduce the ability to perform defensive manoeuvres, and make sure people don't get away too easily — again, the speed change is just a mechanism to a greater goal rather than a purpose in and of itself. The goal is destruction, which feeds a demand for goods, which feeds a demand for ISK, which feeds a demand for PvE.


Again, you keep missing the point: what you want is something that deliberately does not exist in the game, and for good reason. You are also complaining about lore — the in-explanation for why some effect happens — which is pretty silly, when that reason is almost entirely irrelevant.

The problem with that is that it would be pretty bad from a gameplay standpoint.

So why do you suggest something that is even worse in each every of those respects? What purpose would it serve and how would it affect the gameplay of the people involved?

Why?? It would be HILARIOUS!

I'd shoot engines all day and autopiloters just sit in space FOR HOURS,
NOT MOVING AT ALL! Imagine all the tears and rage of people who can't
even move to the station!

What a magnificent idea that would be!!