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Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#41 - 2015-04-04 23:18:39 UTC
I can't wait for the required application buff needed on BS so they get a way to fend off a single frig like their drones is supposed to be about.

Large guns tracking frigs would not be broken at all...
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2015-04-05 00:29:21 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I can't wait for the required application buff needed on BS so they get a way to fend off a single frig like their drones is supposed to be about.

Large guns tracking frigs would not be broken at all...


What?

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#43 - 2015-04-05 01:11:10 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I can't wait for the required application buff needed on BS so they get a way to fend off a single frig like their drones is supposed to be about.

Large guns tracking frigs would not be broken at all...


What?

Simple, large turret weapons simply cannot hit a frig worth a damn once they are inside about 25k to 30k. Most battleships have drones bays so they have a way to deal with the small sh*t in close the guns cannot hit. Increase the tracking on those guns so they can hit that stuff and look out here comes the next version of Ishtars online.

Find myself wondering just how the OP is going to deal with this crazy insane balance nightmare.
Petrified
Old and Petrified Syndication
#44 - 2015-04-05 01:34:09 UTC
Iain Cariaba wrote:
1. Load an overview bracket setting that has drone brackets turned off.
2. Uncheck the box in graphic settings that says "Drone Models."
3. Enjoy an EvE free of horribad lag caused by drones.

OP's idea to remove drones from almost everything is unnecessary.


This is the better solution to "too many drones".

Cloaking is the closest thing to a "Pause Game" button one can get while in space.

Support better localization for the Japanese Community.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#45 - 2015-04-05 02:12:23 UTC
Petrified wrote:
This is the better solution to "too many drones".

Otherwise known as "stealth drones".

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Daide Vondrichnov
French Drop-O-Panache
Snuffed Out
#46 - 2015-04-05 04:12:42 UTC
Nop.
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2015-04-05 04:14:17 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I can't wait for the required application buff needed on BS so they get a way to fend off a single frig like their drones is supposed to be about.

Large guns tracking frigs would not be broken at all...


What?

Simple, large turret weapons simply cannot hit a frig worth a damn once they are inside about 25k to 30k. Most battleships have drones bays so they have a way to deal with the small sh*t in close the guns cannot hit. Increase the tracking on those guns so they can hit that stuff and look out here comes the next version of Ishtars online.

Find myself wondering just how the OP is going to deal with this crazy insane balance nightmare.


How would you manage low sig and velocity of the frigs, i'm not sure about tracking thing.

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#48 - 2015-04-05 13:50:22 UTC
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Donnachadh wrote:
Tiddle Jr wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:
I can't wait for the required application buff needed on BS so they get a way to fend off a single frig like their drones is supposed to be about.

Large guns tracking frigs would not be broken at all...


What?

Simple, large turret weapons simply cannot hit a frig worth a damn once they are inside about 25k to 30k. Most battleships have drones bays so they have a way to deal with the small sh*t in close the guns cannot hit. Increase the tracking on those guns so they can hit that stuff and look out here comes the next version of Ishtars online.

Find myself wondering just how the OP is going to deal with this crazy insane balance nightmare.


How would you manage low sig and velocity of the frigs, i'm not sure about tracking thing.

I have no trouble hitting them with missiles, probably one of the few things that some missiles still do well at.

But the question was for the OP and how they propose to balance this terrible idea for those who choose to use turrets instead.
Iain Cariaba
#49 - 2015-04-05 20:08:40 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Petrified wrote:
This is the better solution to "too many drones".

Otherwise known as "stealth drones".

Otherwise know as "Unf**k Thy Overview".

If you don't have an overview preset for drones, you're doing it wrong.
Bl1SkR1N
13th HOUR
#50 - 2015-04-05 20:14:42 UTC
Remove 1-2high slots from domies.
Harvey James
The Sengoku Legacy
#51 - 2015-04-05 21:01:13 UTC
Bl1SkR1N wrote:
Remove 1-2high slots from domies.


off all droneboats would be nice.

T3's need to be versatile so no rigs are necessary ... they should not have OP dps and tank

ABC's should be T2, remove drone assist, separate HAM's and Torps range, -3 HS for droneboats

Nerf web strength, Make the blaster Eagle worth using
The Pink Unicorn
Doomheim
#52 - 2015-04-06 05:12:30 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
If you want to reform drones, you can start with eliminating drone assist. The next step would be to limit light drones to frigates, medium drones to destroyers and cruisers, heavy drones to battlecruisers and battleships and sentry drones to battleships. The same applies to the varying sizes of utility and logistics drones.


I would actually suggest the following for limit to ship type:

Light to Frigates and Destroyers

Medium to Destroyers Cruisers and Battlecruisers

Heavy to Battlecruisers and Battleships

Sentries to Battleships
Tiddle Jr
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#53 - 2015-04-06 05:37:41 UTC
The Pink Unicorn wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
If you want to reform drones, you can start with eliminating drone assist. The next step would be to limit light drones to frigates, medium drones to destroyers and cruisers, heavy drones to battlecruisers and battleships and sentry drones to battleships. The same applies to the varying sizes of utility and logistics drones.


I would actually suggest the following for limit to ship type:

Light to Frigates and Destroyers

Medium to Destroyers Cruisers and Battlecruisers

Heavy to Battlecruisers and Battleships

Sentries to Battleships


No more Ogres for Vexor's family?! Hell no! Ishtar with sentries is already a legendary bad joke. No more comments on that thing...

"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#54 - 2015-04-06 06:42:54 UTC
The Pink Unicorn wrote:
I would actually suggest the following for limit to ship type:

Light to Frigates and Destroyers
Medium to Destroyers Cruisers and Battlecruisers
Heavy to Battlecruisers and Battleships
Sentries to Battleships

That works too.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Tykonderoga
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2015-04-06 15:58:27 UTC
Dear OP: Please go f. U. C. K. Yourself. Scrub NPC player.
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