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Super Kerr-Induced Nanocoatings (SKINs) Feedback thread

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CCP Terminus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#1 - 2015-04-01 17:55:32 UTC  |  Edited by: CCP Goliath
Hey Everyone,

The new SKIN system should be available for testing.
While there will be an in depth blog going over how everything works, we're looking to see if things seem intuitive, and looking for obvious bugs.

Everything is still at early stages now, but we've seeded some SKINs on the market and look forward to you guys testing it out.
More aspects of the feature will be added as we get closer to the release date.

Some notes on how to apply a SKIN:
- When you click Activate SKIN License that consumes the License and makes it available in the fitting window to apply. It will not change your ship automatically. (wording is one of those things we're looking at)
- To apply a SKIN simply click on the one you want which has been activated (an available SKIN) and it will be applied to your ship.

Thanks for reading, and testing things out!

More info about the feature here

Known Issues:
+There is a small blink in the animation while changing skins.

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Commissar Kate
NulzSec
#2 - 2015-04-01 18:13:29 UTC
I can't seem to activate the skin licenses at all.
tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-04-01 18:14:45 UTC
To reduce confusion, you could make the activation option something like "add SKIN to account".
CCP FoxFour
C C P
C C P Alliance
#4 - 2015-04-01 18:20:14 UTC
tgl3 wrote:
To reduce confusion, you could make the activation option something like "add SKIN to account".


Is there confusion?

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tgl3
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-04-01 18:50:34 UTC
CCP FoxFour wrote:
tgl3 wrote:
To reduce confusion, you could make the activation option something like "add SKIN to account".


Is there confusion?

It was in response to a line in the OP, sorry. Might have misunderstood it.

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When you click Activate SKIN License that consumes the License and makes it available in the fitting window to apply. It will not change your ship automatically. (wording is one of those things we're looking at)
CCP Habakuk
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2015-04-01 18:51:00 UTC
Commissar Kate wrote:
I can't seem to activate the skin licenses at all.

This was indeed broken. Oops

It is now fixed (a few minutes ago) - go ahead and try it out! Cool

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Commissar Kate
NulzSec
#7 - 2015-04-01 19:09:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Commissar Kate
CCP Habakuk wrote:
Commissar Kate wrote:
I can't seem to activate the skin licenses at all.

This was indeed broken. Oops

It is now fixed (a few minutes ago) - go ahead and try it out! Cool


Awesome, works fine now. Even made a gif to show off.

I do see the skin flash in for moment before the skin change effect takes place.
CCP Contra
C C P
C C P Alliance
#8 - 2015-04-01 19:15:55 UTC
Took the liberty to sticky this post and make it the official feedback thread.

We are also planning a mass test on the 9th of April to make sure the feature performs as expected when there are a lot of ships in a system.

Any feedback and issues are welcome here. Take into account that this is still an early stage of the feature so there are several bits still in development. We just wanted you guys to have access to this as early as possible.

Benny Ohu
Chaotic Tranquility
#9 - 2015-04-01 20:04:51 UTC
i don't play on the test server but i wanted to talk about delivery in the store. please consider selling skins as packages in addition to selling individual skins

packages could be based on ship class (buy all the megathron skins in one click), colour scheme (buy all the interbus skins) or release (buy all the skins released in the latest wave or patch)

i can see clothing bundles in the shop so i figure you've probably got skin bundles in mind anyway. i can imagine buying a bundle for my favourite ships - i'm a huge sucker for the cosmetics bundles sold in f2p shooter warframe
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2015-04-01 20:16:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
CCP Contra wrote:
Any feedback and issues are welcome here. Take into account that this is still an early stage of the feature so there are several bits still in development. We just wanted you guys to have access to this as early as possible.

Yes, the Mac client is pooched again (it downloads the initial patch, crashes - then alternates between downloading and updating the launcher when you restart it). And this was with a clean install. Again.

It's to the point where I'm asking myself why I even bother wasting my time trying to offer any assistance when you can't even provide a workable client to test. I was basically unable to test for the last release as well due to the download-on-demand issues with the Mac.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.

CCP Contra
C C P
C C P Alliance
#11 - 2015-04-01 20:34:19 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
CCP Contra wrote:
Any feedback and issues are welcome here. Take into account that this is still an early stage of the feature so there are several bits still in development. We just wanted you guys to have access to this as early as possible.

Yes, the Mac client is pooched again (it downloads the initial patch, crashes - then alternates between downloading and updating the launcher when you restart it). And this was with a clean install. Again.

It's to the point where I'm asking myself why I even bother wasting my time trying to offer any assistance when you can't even provide a workable client to test. I was basically unable to test for the last release as well due to the download-on-demand issues with the Mac.


Hey Arthur, we want to keep this topic related to SKINs only. However once we are back from Easters we will have a new build and we will check into your issues in Mac.

CCP Terminus
C C P
C C P Alliance
#12 - 2015-04-01 21:02:54 UTC
Benny Ohu wrote:
i don't play on the test server but i wanted to talk about delivery in the store. please consider selling skins as packages in addition to selling individual skins

packages could be based on ship class (buy all the megathron skins in one click), colour scheme (buy all the interbus skins) or release (buy all the skins released in the latest wave or patch)

i can see clothing bundles in the shop so i figure you've probably got skin bundles in mind anyway. i can imagine buying a bundle for my favourite ships - i'm a huge sucker for the cosmetics bundles sold in f2p shooter warframe


Bundles are definitely a thing we'll be looking at doing, and we will make sure they are thematic and make sense.

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Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#13 - 2015-04-01 21:29:28 UTC
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Noriko Mai
#14 - 2015-04-01 21:34:03 UTC
Changing a skin (to one you own) in station resets the zoom level. Very annoying.

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Altrue
Exploration Frontier inc
Tactical-Retreat
#15 - 2015-04-01 21:38:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Altrue
- Skins on T1 ships with T2 colors.. hmm, careful with that Blink
- Why are caldari skins so ugly? :( (in my opinion)
- Rorqual ORE edition is now green instead of yellow? u_u

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Working Stiffs
#16 - 2015-04-01 22:14:53 UTC
Any update on the conversion of skin BPC?

i.e. Will a multiple-run BPC be converted to multiple skin tokens?
Joseph Sulaco
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2015-04-01 22:30:36 UTC

  1. Redeeming a skin you already own deletes the license.
  2. The skin for the Police Pursuit Comet does not work.
Masao Kurata
Perkone
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-04-01 22:46:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Masao Kurata
This seems to work well, I haven't found a way to use unlicensed skins, switching in station works although sometimes I've found that the skin reverted when I undock, haven't got a consistent way to reproduce that, you can see other people changing skins in space... all good stuff. I can absolutely confirm that I will buy some skins when this is on TQ; the Duvolle Talos is sexy and I bought quafe vexors ahead of time...

But I have an issue with this: you've included even very rare skins in this program. Even absurdly rare skins, like the Scorpion Ishukone Watch. I know you want people to undock and use these skins but the thing is nobody CARES unless you can destroy them. When the skin's permanent, the killmail is just of another Scorpion and nobody cares about that. Maybe that's too extreme an example for you, how about the Quafe Megathron? Any of the T1 industrial skins? The Mackinaw ORE Development Edition? People are in fact using those. They're taking an absurd risk but that's their choice and everyone is exhilarated when they get an opportunity to kill one. You're taking that away with this system, please at least leave these skins that were never widely distributed as their own types, lost on destruction, specified on killmails and distinguishable on d-scan.

I'm not too bothered about whether I kill a Thrasher or a Thukker Thrasher (although I would be all over any Nefantar Thrasher I find), but at least keep the rare skins as special snowflakes that we can lovingly crush.
Anonymous Forumposter
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-04-01 22:53:44 UTC
Joseph Sulaco wrote:
  1. Redeeming a skin you already own deletes the license.

Can confirm.
Tryaz
Improvised Tactics
#20 - 2015-04-01 23:23:04 UTC
What are the prices in AUR for the new skins like? I'm away from home and can't get on SiSi.

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