Warfare & Tactics

1) Yes it can still be frustrating. After CCP made changes to the PLEX mechanics to prevent cloaking within 30km, farmer numbers dropped off for a while, but they have come back again, though at lower numbers than they used to be.

There are more combat recons about now, though those numbers have settled down a bit since the recon changes. As a result, if you see a juicy ship inside a medium PLEX and you are solo, it's not bad to assume there is a combat recon inside as well; and then plan accordingly.

Biggest thing is the number of Garmur, Svipul, Confessor, Worm, Succubus (not at same numbers as the others) pilots around.

The meta has changes a bit recently, heavily towards these ships. You'll still see Comets, Assault Frigates, etc. around but they aren't as strong as they were even a few months ago.

2) FW missions provide a beacon than anyone can warp to. So you can drop in on a mission runner if you come across a beacon. Also, I have found quite a few people solo run the Besieged Covert Research Facility anomolies. They drop good BPCs and loot and there is often 2-3 in a system at a time. You can watch out for those. The orbital bombardment beacons often also provide a good place to pick up a target if there is any DUST action going on in system. Don't know if they were around when you played before, but otherwise everything should be pretty much the same as before.

hate to break it to ya but I don't see FW being a prepper for null sov wars, FW has its own rules and processes of flipping systems so we're not gonna see fozziesov coming to FW for at least a few months. if anything, I'd say FW is a zone for getting combat experience with solo and small gang fights.

There are still farmers unwilling to fight and there always will be farmers unwilling to fight. remember FW is a public zone, it's riddled with carebears and pirates who also don't contribute much to sov manipulation of FW warzones.

As for FW fighting locations, plexes are still and always will be the spotlight of fights, however you can always catch WTs on gates and stations when they jump or undock.

tl;dr - FW has its own rules and it's not changing as null sov warfare does.

Thanks for the replies.


I've spent more than half of my 8-year EVE time in nullsec. I got into FW yesterday cause I wanted themed territorial PVP (before nullsec becomes worth living and fighting in) as just shooting stuff without context is not something I'm interested in.

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Psst, don't tell the secrets

Professional FW defender of my Gallente Territory. I'll use any means necessary to protect our space. For the glory of the Empire!

Learn to play or gtfo of FW.
MY SYSTEMS! MY SYSTEMS!

Juicy tears.

Or continue plexing on their alt whilst defending their home.

Or just not give a **** about occupancy and continue farming in a stabbed tristan with aggressive drones.


PLex farming and FW sov are mutually exclusive and plex farmers are like cockroaches that will survive the warzone being coloured in one shade with little to no effort.

I am very new to FW myself, so I have a question on what you are looking for when you warp into a plex. I will be honest and say that the advice I have been getting for dplexing is to do it in a warp core stabbed atron aligned for retreat and to never solo dplexes with a ship to fight with. Interestingly I have also been told never to warp to a dplex that already has a member of my militia in it since it "dilutes" their LP, so that pushes it to a solo activity. I guess the logic in running away is that the fight will almost always be on the "attacker's" terms. They dscan the plex, they know what is there and they don't engage unless they have an overwhelming advantage.

This weekend on my second dplex ever (novice site in an incursus) I was attacked. I never attempted to run but it was clear within seconds that I would not win. I managed to live for quite a while, but I was brawler fit with afterburner and they were kiting fit. 2 against 1 with they having a imperial slicer with 22 km pulse. Oh and the guy had like a 90 percent efficiency rating on zkillboard.

Anyway, I am having the ships and fittings for 10 more of the same ship brought out and I will continue to try to defend the plexes. But I am guessing that the fights will always go against me. So what lesson will be learned? I am not sure yet, but I can see why people dplex with a "run-away" attitude.

My guess is that the "right" way to do this is in a small gang with proper logi and organization. But you can't fault the solo guy from running away from a dplex when the advantage is all yours.

Pretty much this. If you're looking for an actual fight (not a gank) stop chasing stabbed d-plexing alts. Spend some time to learn the lay of the land (whether through experience, talking with other militia men, or through killboard scouting). Eventually you'll find the pilots/corps/alliances that offer the type of engagements you're looking for. Then head their way and pick a fight.

if you don't want stabbed farmers, support the threads which mention plex timer resets whenever they periodically come up.

since they fix the problem at its core. The only way to fix it is to make running away less profitable than fighting and attempting to hold the grid.