These forums have been archived and are now read-only.

The new forums are live and can be found at https://forums.eveonline.com/

EVE New Citizens Q&A

 
  • Topic is locked indefinitely.
Previous page12
 

Specialized Planetary Interaction (PI) -- an entry level guide
Author
Previous Topic Next Topic
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#21 - 2015-04-24 11:29:10 UTC
Sun-Tzu.

Your link to the Eve Uni wiki in post 1 is broken.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Kessiaan
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#22 - 2015-04-25 13:19:57 UTC
Memphis Baas wrote:
Any advice on how to deal with POCO's and player taxes? "See what's there and what the taxes are" doesn't help much.


About all you can do short of shooting it is contact the CEO or diplo officer of the corp that owns the POCOs and negotiate a lower rate. Might work, might not - can't hurt to try. A lot of POCOs owners (at least where I do PI, which isn't in highsec) don't actually know much (if anything) about PI and/or have no concept of economics so make sure you are very clear (but polite, of course) about how lowering your taxes will make them more money.

Shooting a POCOs should be a last resort. It costs the better part of a hundred million ISK to set up a new one and it takes a while to make that back, even with an army of PI alts. And if you fail to defend it you can be out all that money very easily. Best to pay a reasonable tax and let it (continue to) be someone else's problem.

KB Link
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#23 - 2015-05-08 00:19:22 UTC
Kessiaan wrote:
Memphis Baas wrote:
Any advice on how to deal with POCO's and player taxes? "See what's there and what the taxes are" doesn't help much.


About all you can do short of shooting it is contact the CEO or diplo officer of the corp that owns the POCOs and negotiate a lower rate. Might work, might not - can't hurt to try. A lot of POCOs owners (at least where I do PI, which isn't in highsec) don't actually know much (if anything) about PI and/or have no concept of economics so make sure you are very clear (but polite, of course) about how lowering your taxes will make them more money.

Shooting a POCOs should be a last resort. It costs the better part of a hundred million ISK to set up a new one and it takes a while to make that back, even with an army of PI alts. And if you fail to defend it you can be out all that money very easily. Best to pay a reasonable tax and let it (continue to) be someone else's problem.



I would only recommend shooting a POCO if you want a fight. Don't see it as a for-profit venture, see it as "I want to shoot someone and any ISK that comes from it is a bonus". Most people that own POCOs in highsec will defend them.

That said, one other option is *threatening* to shoot the POCO with no intention of actually doing so.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Machiavelli Rollard
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2015-07-09 11:36:13 UTC
This has been useful.
Vulpinus Perfidium
Doomheim
#25 - 2015-07-09 17:34:46 UTC
Kessiaan wrote:

It costs the better part of a hundred million ISK to set up a new one and it takes a while to make that back, even with an army of PI alts. And if you fail to defend it you can be out all that money very easily. Best to pay a reasonable tax and let it (continue to) be someone else's problem.


This is something I've wondered. I am certain in high sec that the income generated varies wildly between planet types, systems, and regions but how long would such an investment take to actually see a return?

If we formed a corporation to topple a few of these, and if we were able to hold onto them, what sort of planet may be the best to look for in high sec? What sort of system?

My thoughts would lean toward an area near new player systems, as they seem to travel shorter distances and many try out PI early in their careers. As far as planet types.. barren to get taxes from potential factory planets? plasma due to rarity?

Discounting the ability to bash a POCO and maintain control of it (or lack thereof), is there profit to be found?
Take MyGun FromMe
Used Dildos Inc.
#26 - 2015-07-09 21:43:04 UTC
I thought I read somewhere you do not have to use POCO's, you could instead launch your goods directly into space and bypass the POCO. The only limitation being you could not launch as much?
Yukimisama
Deviant Dollyz
#27 - 2015-07-26 04:22:55 UTC
This is an amazing guide and has gotten me started on my way to building my first system and setup! I wanted to go ahead and include tools for future readers here at the end that I have found extremely useful:

http://eveplanets.com/
This will give you an idea of what's going on with your future planet type lookout if your like me and enjoy pretty things then you can figure out which planet you wanna go after using this! Fortunately I'm going to make robotics as it is currently the most cost effective/material effective one of the P3 chart to produce and resell and requires only favorite a PLASMA PLANET \o/

However that site kinda gives you like... EVERY SYSTEM EVER all at once in your face and says deal with it, so I found this next one very helpful as it allowed me to decide via jump distance from a trade hub and let me see via security status which is extremely important where I could get to to find my PLASMA PLANET!

http://www.thonky.com/eve-online-guide/nearby-planets-by-type

Hopefully this helps anyone else reading through this incredible guide

In My World...
Previous page12