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Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-27 08:30:36 UTC
Now i know this can be done, multiple times i have seen people do it, they find a killmail and can link it in chat when the victim doesnt have api linked to killboard site and the attacker that got the final blow didnt either. They also do it in seconds after the kill or basically whenever you ask for it, 45secs later they are pasting it in chat...

How do they do that? I am looking for a certain km i didnt get fb on and victim and killing blow dude obviously dont have api linked. I KNOW its possible with searching the time/system the kill happened, but where do i put that info in? How is this done? I seriously zee a LOT of people that know how to do it so it aint THAT big of a secret, yet it kinda is. Omg please help. Thanks
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2015-03-27 10:05:13 UTC
Find answer? I know it aint hard cuz how fast they do it. Just must be some secret site/app. I tried google, even asked jeeves...
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#3 - 2015-03-27 10:07:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
As long as the final blow was someone in your Corp, in the Neocom go to:

Social > Corporation > Wars > Kill Reports

That will open all 'show kills' and 'show losses' for your Corp, not only those involving a war.

You can then filter by ship to find the relevant killmail.

For BNI, if it was recent you might not have to look at too many, but if it was a few days ago or more, good luck.
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
#4 - 2015-03-27 10:18:26 UTC
I bet the REAL Carrie-Anne Moss could find it.

You wouldn't be trying to impersonate a celebrity would you?

I don't judge people by their race, religion, color, size, age, gender, or ethnicity. I judge them by their grammar, spelling, syntax, punctuation, clarity of expression, and logical consistency.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-03-27 10:20:00 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
As long as the final blow was someone in your Corp, in the Neocom go to:

Social > Corporation > Wars > Kill Reports

That will open all 'show kills' and 'show losses' for your Corp, not only those involving a war.

You can then filter by ship to find the relevant killmail.

For BNI, if it was recent you might not have to look at too many, but if it was a few days ago or more, good luck.


No just some random. I have seen it done a lot really. A random dude in npc corp without api linked gets killed by 2 players, the one with the final blow and gets the km is also in npc corp and no api linked yet some ninja search-fu by these dudes and 45secs later they link the game km in chat.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2015-03-27 10:21:29 UTC
War Kitten wrote:
I bet the REAL Carrie-Anne Moss could find it.

You wouldn't be trying to impersonate a celebrity would you?


She spells my name wrong and omg please help me. My missing km is somewhere lost in the Matrix
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#7 - 2015-03-27 10:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
No just some random. I have seen it done a lot really. A random dude in npc corp without api linked gets killed by 2 players, the one with the final blow and gets the km is also in npc corp and no api linked yet some ninja search-fu by these dudes and 45secs later they link the game km in chat.

If either one of them did it, then they did it either from:

1. notification (recent addtion)
2. their Combat Log

All kills and losses are recorded in your combat log (all your losses and all kills you had the final blow on)

The notification system provides a link direct to the killmail/lossmail
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-03-27 10:38:05 UTC
Omg... dude say you are in Amarr or Rens, some random npc corp newb-non api linked to killboard dude goes yellow.
Following?
So then you and some other second random npc corp non api linked etc just random freaking guy kill the victim but the 2nd random gets the final blow.
You then realise you will never ever see the killmail, so you ask in local, "Hey people i just helped kill this guy xxxx in xyz ship at 123 time right here, anyone have the km?"
In under 1 min someone will link it, they do some crazy ninja-search-magic-fu or something (i dont know and tis what i am asking)
And then they link the in game km report in chat.

Why dont u understand what in asking? Y is no1 helping? Please
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#9 - 2015-03-27 10:40:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Omg... dude say you are in Amarr or Rens, some random npc corp newb-non api linked to killboard dude goes yellow.
Following?
So then you and some other second random npc corp non api linked etc just random freaking guy kill the victim but the 2nd random gets the final blow.
You then realise you will never ever see the killmail, so you ask in local, "Hey people i just helped kill this guy xxxx in xyz ship at 123 time right here, anyone have the km?"
In under 1 min someone will link it, they do some crazy ninja-search-magic-fu or something (i dont know and tis what i am asking)
And then they link the in game km report in chat.

Why dont u understand what in asking? Y is no1 helping? Please

If you don't know who either random is, then you are ******.

If they don't have their API linked, it won't appear on a killboard and the only way to get the killmail is from the person who died, or the person who had the final blow.

What you are saying about search foo by someone to find a random killmail is BS. Doesn't happen.

Unless you are in the same Corp as either the victim or final blow, are the guy who died or the guy with the final blow, you can't get the ingame killmail.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-03-27 10:40:57 UTC
And no it aint the victim or the final blow random dude linking it. Its just some magical super searcher website goddess of knowledge that finds any km with the given ship, name and time.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2015-03-27 10:44:20 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
Omg... dude say you are in Amarr or Rens, some random npc corp newb-non api linked to killboard dude goes yellow.
Following?
So then you and some other second random npc corp non api linked etc just random freaking guy kill the victim but the 2nd random gets the final blow.
You then realise you will never ever see the killmail, so you ask in local, "Hey people i just helped kill this guy xxxx in xyz ship at 123 time right here, anyone have the km?"
In under 1 min someone will link it, they do some crazy ninja-search-magic-fu or something (i dont know and tis what i am asking)
And then they link the in game km report in chat.

Why dont u understand what in asking? Y is no1 helping? Please

If you don't know who the random is, then you are ******.

If they don't have their API linked, it won't appear on a killboard and the only way to get the killmail is from the person who died, or the person who had the final blow.

Trying to help, but your ramblings are a bit inconsistent.



I know!! Thats why im askkng. I AM TELLING YOU THERE IS SKME MAGIC SECRET WAY TO DO UT. I SEE IT DONE. IT CAN BE DONE OTHER THAN WHAT U ARE SAYING THAT IS COMMON Knowledge.

Hense why i tried searching and couldnt find it sk figured id ask here. There is some secret way to find them man.

Ill just ask reddit, the REAL eve forums (hell even devs use /r/eve more than their own forums and actually hold convos with players there) somthing something mods maybe? Dont tske my word just see the devs choose reddit over ur forums bro
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#12 - 2015-03-27 10:51:46 UTC
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
[I know!! Thats why im askkng. I AM TELLING YOU THERE IS SKME MAGIC SECRET WAY TO DO UT. I SEE IT DONE. IT CAN BE DONE OTHER THAN WHAT U ARE SAYING THAT IS COMMON Knowledge.

Bullshit.

You can't search for the in game killmail unless you are the victim, final blow or in the Corp of either.
Carrie-Anne Moss
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-03-27 10:55:53 UTC
Scipio Artelius wrote:
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
[I know!! Thats why im askkng. I AM TELLING YOU THERE IS SKME MAGIC SECRET WAY TO DO UT. I SEE IT DONE. IT CAN BE DONE OTHER THAN WHAT U ARE SAYING THAT IS COMMON Knowledge.

Bullshit.

You can't search for the in game killmail unless you are the victim, final blow or in the Corp of either.


Im pretty sure there is some website to do it like an eveapraisal thingy or something like that. Theres all kinds or api scraping still legal things/sites/apps.

There is a way, i seen it. Go make a trial account, get him killed by someone with no api linked to killboard and cry in local for a few, i promise you someone will paste you that in game killmail link in local. They find it some how, some scrapy thing like how eve central gets all those buy orders etc etc etc. There is some secret way
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#14 - 2015-03-27 11:03:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Scipio Artelius
Carrie-Anne Moss wrote:
There is a way, i seen it. Go make a trial account, get him killed by someone with no api linked to killboard and cry in local for a few, i promise you someone will paste you that in game killmail link in local. They find it some how, some scrapy thing like how eve central gets all those buy orders etc etc etc. There is some secret way

If you think there is a secret way, then you've just answered for yourself how to find it.

Just go cry in local for a few. If there is a secret way, then it'll be linked for you.

The easiest way I know to chase that down if I was on the killmail would be to go back through my saved combat logs on my computer and find the name of the character I was shooting, then mail them politely and ask them to link the killmail in a reply. (I have an API, so have no need to do that. Just an example if no API)
Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2015-03-27 11:04:55 UTC

Not possible via CREST either. You need a magic hash, without which the ingame KM link can't be generated:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/1xlu20/dev_post_crest_killmails_endpoint_ccp_foxfour/
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4224320#post4224320

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.
voetius
Grundrisse
#16 - 2015-03-27 11:27:28 UTC

Something similar : I have an alt that does some casual war-deccing and is NOT api linked to any killboard and I have never generated any api key for that character. But all his killmails are listed on zkillboard. I assumed that this was done through CREST / Wardec. All the kills are from wars though.

I haven't looked at Sibyyl 's links but will do that.
Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2015-03-27 11:32:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
All kills are listed on zkillboard. Api key has nothing to do with it.
Go there, type the name of the pilot in the search list and voila!

https://zkillboard.com/kill/45531339/

To post a killmail you need to actively be involved in it or, like the posters above mention, to find it in the corp/wars window.
Not all kills get listed there though.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#18 - 2015-03-27 11:48:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Gimme Sake wrote:
All kills are listed on zkillboard. Api has nothing to do with it.
Go there, type the name of the pilot in the search list and voila!

https://zkillboard.com/kill/45531339/

To post a killmail you need to actively be involved in it or, like the posters above mention, to find it in the corp/wars window.
Not all kills get listed there though.

What do you mean, API has nothing to do with it?

I know that people post killmails, but if that doesn't happen,
how else than through the API would a killboard scan a killmail?

If nobody posts and nobody involved is API verified?
At the end you say "Not all kills get listed here",
contradicting yourself...


Also... there's these new killboard links in the combat log I have to take a look at...
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Gimme Sake
State War Academy
Caldari State
#19 - 2015-03-27 11:58:54 UTC  |  Edited by: Gimme Sake
Eve Solecist wrote:
Gimme Sake wrote:
All kills are listed on zkillboard. Api has nothing to do with it.
Go there, type the name of the pilot in the search list and voila!

https://zkillboard.com/kill/45531339/

To post a killmail you need to actively be involved in it or, like the posters above mention, to find it in the corp/wars window.
Not all kills get listed there though.

What do you mean, API has nothing to do with it?

I know that people post killmails, but if that doesn't happen,
how else than through the API would a killboard scan a killmail?

If nobody posts and nobody involved is API verified?
At the end you say "Not all kills get listed here",
contradicting yourself...


Also... there's these new killboard links in the combat log I have to take a look at...



I mean having an API key has nothing to do with it.
Yes, not all kills are listed in corporation window, some are omitted for some reason yet they appear on zkillboard.

"Never not blob!" ~ Plato
Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#20 - 2015-03-27 12:00:44 UTC
k, thanks for clarifying.
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