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What do you guys think of this?

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Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-26 19:26:42 UTC
3rd time solo PvPing evaaaarrrr

But! It had some decent success. I'd be lying if I said I didn't have the major adrenaline shakes during this >_<;;;

Sorry about the quality of the video, Raptr glitched out on more or something, but it gets the point across. I try to sound like I know what I'm talking about but I've just been watching a lot of Eve fights on Youtube and doing research on Pyfa ._.

What do you guys think? Dumb luck or decent tactics? What would you do different? Any tips/suggestions?

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama
Arla Sarain
#2 - 2015-03-26 19:52:23 UTC
Nice.

It does have merit - you won't die to kiters or 2 midslot frigs.
Grease PaYN
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2015-03-27 23:02:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Grease PaYN
Good kill.

Like Arla mentioned, your fit is a good counter against kiting and mwd brawling frigates, however something with an afterburner can kite your blasters (i.e scram kiting) or simply disengage at will.
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-03-27 23:38:23 UTC
Grease PaYN wrote:
Good kill.

Like Arla mentioned, your fit is a good counter against kiting and mwd brawling frigates, however something with an afterburner can kite your blasters (i.e scram kiting) or simply disengage at will.


I'm cool with them disengaging x3

Kiting on the other hand, I'd likely focus on mitigating damage from drones and then utilizing my own to counter. Probably be the best bet. If they decide to shift focus to my drones I'd try to counter by manually piloting and trying to get out of scram/disrupt range or get in closer for damage application.

Any thoughts on a better way to go about that?

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama
Grease PaYN
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2015-03-28 00:13:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Grease PaYN
Nomistrav wrote:
I'd try to counter by manually piloting and trying to get out of scram/disrupt range or get in closer for damage application.


Not feasible.
If you find yourself being scram-kited by an ab frigate you essentially have no range control; you only have a single web and no afterburner - you're not going anywhere. Not only that but your only reliable means of applying damage at this range is with your 2 flights of unbonused drones (until they get killed).

If anything, I would ditch the blasters and try something like Rapid Light Missile Launchers for increased versatility. -- Fought a celestis once with my slicer, he had RLMLs, they hit hard Lol
Maksim Cammeren
Taxless Corp
#6 - 2015-03-28 00:15:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Maksim Cammeren
Interesting concept. I EFT'd this for fun.

In my opinion, this would be much scarier if you swap out your guns for medium neuts and the tracking enhancers for drone damage augmenters (and some tank). Without damage bonuses, the guns are not as effective, anyways.

When they are forced into your range, you neut them dry and let the drones do the work. They are webbed, scrammed, have no cap to run an AB or to shoot lasers/blasters.

Again, imo, a solo fit without a prop mod is very gimmicky (as in, works in particular cases, fails miserably in others). But with some tweaking you should be able to squeeze one on, as 3 damps is very much overkill: 2 damps and smart use of heat will be enough 95% of the time.
Grease PaYN
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2015-03-28 00:49:05 UTC
completely forgot about neuts ^


Definitely try to fit medium neuts, 12 km range Smile
Nomistrav
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2015-03-28 00:51:14 UTC
Maksim Cammeren wrote:
Interesting concept. I EFT'd this for fun.

In my opinion, this would be much scarier if you swap out your guns for medium neuts and the tracking enhancers for drone damage augmenters (and some tank). Without damage bonuses, the guns are not as effective, anyways.

When they are forced into your range, you neut them dry and let the drones do the work. They are webbed, scrammed, have no cap to run an AB or to shoot lasers/blasters.

Again, imo, a solo fit without a prop mod is very gimmicky (as in, works in particular cases, fails miserably in others). But with some tweaking you should be able to squeeze one on, as 3 damps is very much overkill: 2 damps and smart use of heat will be enough 95% of the time.


Not really. At least, not without Signal Suppression 5. There's still a few frigates that have >10km lock range even with all three and that's kinda crucial to the Scrambler/Webber.

Good advice on the neuts though, might give it a shot.

"As long as space endures,

as long as sentient beings exist,

until then, may I too remain

and dispel the miseries of the world."

~ Vremaja Idama
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2015-03-29 17:40:10 UTC
Nice kill, there are not so many Asteros in plexes. This reminds me to maybe bring my double web max tank Exequror back to lowsec ...

I'm my own NPC alt.
Trajan Unknown
State War Academy
Caldari State
#10 - 2015-03-31 12:46:46 UTC
+1 for thinking outside the box so to say.

I´d try to get a prop mod in just for not being a complete slowboat and pick up the neut thing. But besides that, I really enjoyed this non cookie cutter fit. They work more often than not because people are so used to certain things that they don´t realise it´s not the standard stuff they come up against.