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Half year, 200B collected, 1T destroyed: donate for destruction
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Lim Yoona
#221 - 2015-05-17 17:24:41 UTC
I could see investing in this project if there was any progress at all or a way to quantify success besides killmails. The target seems to be line members but I dont see any line members leaving. How long is it gonna take for this project to show some fruit?

The numbers dont lie, goons, CFC, Imperium are growing and half a year, 200b collected and 1T destroyed hasnt done a thing.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#222 - 2015-05-17 17:46:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Tora Bushido
Lim Yoona wrote:
The numbers dont lie, goons, CFC, Imperium are growing and half a year, 200b collected and 1T destroyed hasnt done a thing.
You might want to look at the other alliances in 'The Librarians' (our nickname for the CFC) Big smile. Most are close to death. The corps that stay, join the Goonswarm alliance. Smart people hire Marmites to continue this destruction. Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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Lim Yoona
#223 - 2015-05-17 21:51:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Lim Yoona
Cixi
#224 - 2015-05-17 23:24:48 UTC
Lim Yoona wrote:
Um..

People just aren't leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.


I've read some of the post on his blog, and I can only see the same results, more goons are getting killed but it doesn't looks like it affect them that much...

A great talk on the subject :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLAHCp2T4P0
flakeys
Doomheim
#225 - 2015-05-18 07:27:49 UTC
Syds Sinclair wrote:
flakeys wrote:
Syds Sinclair wrote:
..Then tell me what it is that contradicts what I said in my previous post.



Why would i repeat myself ?I clearly stated the difference and if you don't see it then no harm done .





..It seems as if you would like to disagree for the sake of disagreement. I don't believe either of our posts are in conflict with each other.

You wanted to poke at SMA, and I stated that SMA and the other alliances are ok with "Grrr Goons" being the default reaction to CFC victories.

You've grown trollish over the past few years =/



Details mate , the above was the middle of your post wich i agreed with and the bottom was sayng everyone was ok with taking a step into the shades for the greater good of the CFC to wich my response was that that claim was false.It's a small detail but one that makes a huge difference as to who get's to call the shots.

As for being a troll , i can not help nor care how others perceive my posts.It's just there to pass the time mate , it's not like we are discussing world changing problems Blink.

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#226 - 2015-05-18 09:00:18 UTC
Lim Yoona wrote:
Every single last CFC alliance including goons is waay up or steady growth. So again I ask, where is the progress? People just arent leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.
I wonder where they came from Blink

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fatal_Ascension/corporations

Like I said..... Hire Marmites today. The end is near. Pirate

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Lim Yoona
#227 - 2015-05-18 15:59:56 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lim Yoona wrote:
Every single last CFC alliance including goons is waay up or steady growth. So again I ask, where is the progress? People just arent leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.
I wonder where they came from Blink

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fatal_Ascension/corporations

Like I said..... Hire Marmites today. The end is near. Pirate


No, the end is not near. Fozziesov killed renting except in the drone regions which are worthless anyways, FA had leadership, apathy and organizational issues since Zagdul left and the vast majority of those people went to current CFC alliances anyways What?

Nobody is leaving the CFC, no amount of isk or killmails or interceptor roams, JF kills or BLOPS drops can effect an organization that large.

It just isnt happening and cannot happen. But uh..the whole grr thing is a nice bit of roleplaying I guess so, carry on.
Tora Bushido
The Marmite Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#228 - 2015-05-18 19:26:24 UTC
Aha, classic case of "I didn't want that alliance anyway" Twisted

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

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alpha36
Northern Freight Unlimited
Young Miners Christian Association
#229 - 2015-05-18 19:27:06 UTC
Gen Eve putting that Goblin money to good use http://imgur.com/LIyUyUc
Syds Sinclair
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#230 - 2015-05-18 23:56:23 UTC
alpha36 wrote:
Gen Eve putting that Goblin money to good use http://imgur.com/LIyUyUc


..All part of the plan. Marmite will use those Legions to camp Jita and roam HighSec, which will eventually make the Imperium lose Sov.

Right?

♠ Sinclair Consulting ♠
alpha36
Northern Freight Unlimited
Young Miners Christian Association
#231 - 2015-05-19 04:30:02 UTC
His broken english is tough to understand sometimes but I think hes saying they bought 400b worth or mordus legion BPCs because one guy is camping 5ZXX with some chimeras and Gen Eve thinks the mordus BPs will double in price Roll
Strawberry Mooses
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#232 - 2015-05-19 11:14:25 UTC
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lim Yoona wrote:
Every single last CFC alliance including goons is waay up or steady growth. So again I ask, where is the progress? People just arent leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.
I wonder where they came from Blink

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fatal_Ascension/corporations

Like I said..... Hire Marmites today. The end is near. Pirate


Ummm. Wat?

GWCPS is a renter alliance. We don't even do renters anymore.

FA merged into GSF member corps a month ago as well.

Keep camping the Amarr undock and grrrrr goning, my love.
flakeys
Doomheim
#233 - 2015-05-19 12:26:19 UTC
Strawberry Mooses wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lim Yoona wrote:
Every single last CFC alliance including goons is waay up or steady growth. So again I ask, where is the progress? People just arent leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.
I wonder where they came from Blink

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fatal_Ascension/corporations

Like I said..... Hire Marmites today. The end is near. Pirate


Ummm. Wat?

GWCPS is a renter alliance. We don't even do renters anymore.

FA merged into GSF member corps a month ago as well.

Keep camping the Amarr undock and grrrrr goning, my love.



That is what he was saying ....

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#234 - 2015-05-19 12:58:10 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Strawberry Mooses wrote:
Tora Bushido wrote:
Lim Yoona wrote:
Every single last CFC alliance including goons is waay up or steady growth. So again I ask, where is the progress? People just arent leaving the CFC because they lost a ratting ship, they're not, prove to me otherwise.
I wonder where they came from Blink

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Greater_Western_Co-Prosperity_Sphere/corporations

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/Fatal_Ascension/corporations

Like I said..... Hire Marmites today. The end is near. Pirate


Ummm. Wat?

GWCPS is a renter alliance. We don't even do renters anymore.

FA merged into GSF member corps a month ago as well.

Keep camping the Amarr undock and grrrrr goning, my love.



That is what he was saying ....

I too love arguments that rebut themselves +1

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Eyrun Mangeiri
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#235 - 2015-05-19 18:41:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Eyrun Mangeiri
Lim Yoona wrote:
Nobody is leaving the CFC, no amount of isk or killmails or interceptor roams, JF kills or BLOPS drops can effect an organization that large.


But we lost 2 titans and 4 supercarriers to pirates (and Black Legion). The end is coming.

Let's wait another year and the Imperium is no more. I want to believe.

I can see what you see not - vision milky then eyes rot. When you turn they will be gone - whispering their hidden song.
Gevlon Goblin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#236 - 2015-05-20 03:59:13 UTC
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
Let's wait another year and the Imperium is no more. I want to believe.

Looking at the trend how you lose regions, yes, in a year you'll have none left.

Also in the news: Goons so much don't care about MoA that they decided to "hellcamp" it. I've made a little statistics how the previous hellcamps affected MoA [spoiler: they didn't, as their station can't be flipped] http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2015/05/taking-out-trash-attempt-3.html

My blog: greedygoblin.blogspot.com
Lim Yoona
#237 - 2015-05-20 04:07:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Lim Yoona
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
how the previous hellcamps affected MoA spoiler: they didnt

So riddle me this: if a 13,000 man alliance like GSF cant affect a 1,000 man alliance like MOA then how is MOA supposed to affect/destroy GSF?

Even if something catastrophic happened and GSF lost all sov, The Imperium imploded and everyone reset each other then wouldnt GSF become MOA? Living in NPC space like Syndicate or Pure Blind and harassing bigger groups?

Yes that sounds familiar because all this has happened before. I know its a longshot expecting or hoping for a logical answer but cmon nobody can be this delusional can they??
Corey Lean
No Vacancies
No Vacancies.
#238 - 2015-05-20 04:18:55 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Eyrun Mangeiri wrote:
Let's wait another year and the Imperium is no more. I want to believe.

Looking at the trend how you lose regions, yes, in a year you'll have none left.

Also in the news: Goons so much don't care about MoA that they decided to "hellcamp" it. I've made a little statistics how the previous hellcamps affected MoA [spoiler: they didn't, as their station can't be flipped] http://greedygoblin.blogspot.hu/2015/05/taking-out-trash-attempt-3.html

You nerds are makin a lot of noise about something that isnt affecting you.
flakeys
Doomheim
#239 - 2015-05-20 10:57:02 UTC
Lim Yoona wrote:
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
how the previous hellcamps affected MoA spoiler: they didnt

So riddle me this: if a 13,000 man alliance like GSF cant affect a 1,000 man alliance like MOA then how is MOA supposed to affect/destroy GSF?

Even if something catastrophic happened and GSF lost all sov, The Imperium imploded and everyone reset each other then wouldnt GSF become MOA? Living in NPC space like Syndicate or Pure Blind and harassing bigger groups?

Yes that sounds familiar because all this has happened before. I know its a longshot expecting or hoping for a logical answer but cmon nobody can be this delusional can they??



Uhm , you're talking to gevlon mate ..... Shocked

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admiral root
Red Galaxy
#240 - 2015-05-20 17:25:35 UTC
Gevlon Goblin wrote:
Looking at the trend how you lose regions, yes, in a year you'll have none left.


Roll

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