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Solecist Project
#61 - 2015-04-21 23:03:30 UTC
Amount* ... and ... well, I can't blame you for being selfish.
I mean...... you're at least *trying* !!

It now feels silly to judge you for being greedy ...
... considering you honestly try to achieve something !

That's a gazillion times more than absolutely most other do !

And you're not ****- or hate-posting either .....
..... like way too many others do !



I honestly wish you good luck! :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Primary This Rifter
Mutual Fund of the Something
#62 - 2015-04-22 08:04:07 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
Anthar Thebess wrote:

Just to summarize.
There will be NO benefit for CCP, even more , this operation will cause loose of money for CCP.
IT will just allow easy and safe payout while escalating plex prices at the same time.

This more expensive plex will be only harmful for eve, as it will be only expensive, as people will stack it up for next big promotion.

This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money?
The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event.

Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP.


Why would you come play the game to get a headset if you can get it cheaper by just buying the damn thing? It will OBVIOUSLY cost more in PLEX worth of $$$ than straight up $$$ because if it does not then CCP will be pissing money away.

Just to give you an example.

The past offer was a GTX 560 for 20 (TWENTY) PLEX. At 15$ a PLEX, that's 300$ of PLEX for a card that launched at least 8 month before this promo was created with a MSRP of 199$.

No one will buy PLEX from CCP to get their VR set because once again, it will be cheaper to buy it off the shelves unless you somehow happen to have the PLEX on hands or the ISK to buy said PLEX. Anybody supposedly starting to play EVE to buy this will need months of grinding to amass the required wealth unless he hits a goldmine with a scam.

Well... people are buying the OR DK2 on Amazon for $600+ when you can just buy it directly from Oculus for $300.
People with money don't know how to shop.
Solecist Project
#63 - 2015-04-23 16:17:20 UTC
I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page.

I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal!

*waves nicely with a bright smile on her face* (:

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Rabid Disconnection
Prism's Keepers
#64 - 2015-04-24 00:49:48 UTC
This would obviously be used for RMT.
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#65 - 2015-04-24 03:45:18 UTC
Solecist Project wrote:
I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page.

I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal!

*waves nicely with a bright smile on her face* (:


And I'm totally not posting here just to say I miss you.

*shyly waves from the back of the room*

Mr Epeen Cool
Solecist Project
#66 - 2015-04-24 07:52:10 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
Solecist Project wrote:
I am totally not posting here to get rid of all these locked threads on the front page.

I just wanted to wave nicely at ISD Ezwal!

*waves nicely with a bright smile on her face* (:


And I'm totally not posting here just to say I miss you.

*shyly waves from the back of the room*

Mr Epeen Cool
Awwwwww but why would you?
I'm here! ^_^

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#67 - 2015-05-02 19:46:15 UTC
Thanks a lot for all you guy's inputs on the thread, showing CCP that there is community appetite for this offer. I hope they will do the right thing and make it happen.
Solecist Project
#68 - 2015-05-02 19:50:17 UTC
Hey there!
Nice to see you haven't given up! :)

That ringing in your ears you're experiencing right now is the last gasping breathe of a dying inner ear as it got thoroughly PULVERISED by the point roaring over your head at supersonic speeds. - Tippia
Anthar Thebess
#69 - 2015-05-03 19:20:09 UTC
Not only him.
NO FOR LEGALIZED RMT!

Stop discrimination, help in a fight against terrorists

Show your support to The Cause!
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#70 - 2015-05-12 17:30:10 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
To all you guys crying about the possible PLEX isk price inflation with this promotion, take a look at how much it inflated with the PLEX for GOOD program (that actually sinks much more PLEX than a PLEX for item event does). It merely went up 60 million isk, it's currently at ~870 mil and probably will not go over 900 mil.
The market stock shrinked a bit but it'll grow back soon enough and the price will go down again.

Like Mr Epeen wrote before, find something legit to get worked up over.
Miami Jones
Virtual Industry Inc.
New Eden Bling Empire
#71 - 2015-05-12 18:10:54 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource.

We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else.


This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money?
The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event.

Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP.


I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal.
Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
#72 - 2015-05-12 18:56:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Anuri Suaraj
Miami Jones wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource.

We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else.


This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money?
The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event.

Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP.


I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal.


New player here. Been playing a few hours here and there for about a month now. Mostly exploration.

And I'm just about 100 mill shy of getting my first Plex.

Honestly, if it's that easy for me to make a Plex on my own, I can only imagine how much ISK and Plex some of the better veteran or corporate-backed players have stockpiled.

I think some people should be satisfied with the fact that CCP so generously allows them to play the game for free instead of getting super greedy and trying to score RL items with a wad of virtual cash.

My humble opinion is that in general CCP has the ISK faucet opened up a bit too much in EVE, which has now led to certain people developing maniacal schemes.

To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game.

On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy.

I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies.

To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity.

I do not approve.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#73 - 2015-05-12 19:15:04 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game.

On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy.

I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies.
PLEX is not an "IOU", it's a product sold by CCP that can be exchanged for EVE game time or currency.

CCP has allowed PLEX to be exchanged for real world items before (see PLEX for Nvidia card offer) and they stated at the time it was an experiment they intended to follow up on and were looking for the right opportunities to do so.

Anuri Suaraj wrote:
To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity.

I do not approve.
Next time read it before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself.
Miami Jones
Virtual Industry Inc.
New Eden Bling Empire
#74 - 2015-05-12 19:41:49 UTC
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
Miami Jones wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
sabre906 wrote:
No. It's basically channeling subscription money that could otherwise go to CCP, to Nvidia, while decreasing the number of characters in game. Both harms Eve. The player base has only so much appetite in buying plex, it's not an unlimited resource.

We don't need to send money to Nvidia and give graphics cards to rl poor eve rich no lifers, to the detriment of CCP, Eve, and everyone else.


This is nonsense. "PLEX for VR" Do you see that? You want a better way to promote PLEX, EVE Online and EVE Valkyrie? The media write-ups will be everywhere and tons of people will come play the game to get headsets. PLEX prices will go up yes, and is that a bad thing for CCP's business? Or is it valuing PLEX itself, rewarding with more isk the people who buy them, and making more people pay their subscriptions with real money?
The partnership with the headset manufacturer makes them dirtcheap to CCP and the ammount spent will be a pittance compared to the revenue gained with the event.

Get real man. This is an excellent opportunity both for the players and CCP.


I don't think this guy understands how the market works. PLEX prices go up, people purchase plex with rl money and sell on the eve market. The increase in PLEX price would only last so long. I believe there were 300 something GPUs from nvidia that were sold and the blip in plex prices barely lasted a day if that. To say to create an PLEX sink would decrease the number of accounts in eve is a really stupid thing to say. There are no down sides to this proposal.


New player here. Been playing a few hours here and there for about a month now. Mostly exploration.

And I'm just about 100 mill shy of getting my first Plex.

Honestly, if it's that easy for me to make a Plex on my own, I can only imagine how much ISK and Plex some of the better veteran or corporate-backed players have stockpiled.

I think some people should be satisfied with the fact that CCP so generously allows them to play the game for free instead of getting super greedy and trying to score RL items with a wad of virtual cash.

My humble opinion is that in general CCP has the ISK faucet opened up a bit too much in EVE, which has now led to certain people developing maniacal schemes.

To all the "economists" in the house... PLEX is basically an IOU from CCP that they can now cash in straight away since it can't really be used outside of the game.

On the other hand, if you could use PLEX to buy things outside of the game, then CCP couldn't cash in that IOU straight away and would have to wait and see whether or not you (or the person that eventually gets the PLEX by whatever means) would use the PLEX for game time or for that VR thingy.

I don't think CCP should allow that, and I doubt that they ever will, since I'm guessing they don't like handing their hard earned money out to other companies.

To me personally, this whole thread just sounds like a bunch of ungrateful Plex hoarding vets want to take advantage of CCP's generosity.

I do not approve.


For someone who's been playing for barely a month you profess to know quite a bit about PLEX.
Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
#75 - 2015-05-12 21:35:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Anuri Suaraj
raven666wings wrote:

PLEX is not an "IOU", it's a product sold by CCP that can be exchanged for EVE game time or currency.

PLEX is an IOU.

EVERY form of currency in the world, both real and virtual, since the dismantlement of the gold standard is basically an IOU issued by someone.

Also, one promotional deal doesn't mean that CCP is going to put PLEX out as a tradable currency on the New York Stock Exchange.

What they did was cool and was also very nice of them, but there's just no way that they could ever make any money doing that on a regular basis.

Miami Jones wrote:


For someone who's been playing for barely a month you profess to know quite a bit about PLEX.

Here's some stuff I do know about.

Firstly, promotions are generally intended to reach as wide an audience as possible. So CCP would want to come up with something that reaches as much of the gaming community as possible.

So, with that in mind, let's take a closer look at the brilliant "Let's buy VR HMD with PLEX" promotion of 2015.

Who does it reach and how? When I look up the prices of these VR sets, I can see that only individuals who have already horded copious amounts of PLEX would be able to cash in on any such promotion.

So here we're talking about only a small fraction of EVE's already miniscule player base, about only the most dedicated EVE online players around, a special group of individuals also known as:

(and I highlight this next part so that you would all read it slowly and then maybe finally get it)...

People who would have tried and/or played EVE Valkyrie regardless of any CCP promotion thrown their way (or not)....

You see the point of a promotion is to PROMOTE something, like a PC game for example, to people who maybe not yet be acquainted with it or interested in it, and not to people who are already both acquainted and interested due to the fact that they're already subscribing to one of your PC games (that incidentally takes place in the same freaking universe).

Secondly, I have to gawk at the most specific aim of this alleged promotion, the fabled VR HMD set.

I mean, the OP claims that he only chose the VR HMD as ultimate goal of the promotion because Valkyrie will support VR HMD.

But that would mean that anything, which is supported by or can in any way be loosely connected to EVE Valkyrie, could be the main attraction of the promotion.

So, using the same logic CCP could get in bed with Logitech or Thrustmaster and offer promotional joysticks to people. Joysticks are cheaper than VRs, right?

But OP hasn't suggested that.

Gaming headsets?

No word from the OP.

And why stop there... I mean, no one can game on any empty stomach, right? So why don't we extend this wonderful promotion to our local supermarket chains? Just imagine, by this time next week you could be getting that lifetime supply of honey-dipped ham that both you and your dog have always wanted.

But OP hasn't suggested that either. Which is too bad because I really could have gotten behind that.

But our OP was very, very specific...Just get me them VR HMDs.

And I'm sorry, but to me personally, or to anyone else that has a three digit IQ, this just has to be highly transparent.

So the following is basically my theory on how this thread came into existence and why it has survived so long...

The OP wanted a VR HMD set, but couldn't afford one.

Then, one day, he had a light bulb go off.

Wait, he thought, there's this company that not only let's me play their game for free, but has even gone so far as to let player's exchange virtual currency for RL items at times, like during that graphic card promotion thing (kudos to CCP for that btw, and shame on the player base for trying to exploit it now).

And since this same company has a game coming out soon which will support the very piece of hardware that I so desire, I'll just run along to the Forum and suggest that CCP starts a "PLEX4VR-HMDs" promotion.

It's just like PLEX4GOOD (kudos to CCP for that as well) except instead of sending aid to people in need, they'll be sending out overpriced VR goggles to my home address.

I think that pretty much every person in the Forum who has PLEX stashed away somewhere will just automatically give me a thumbs up.

I mean, who doesn't like free stuff, right?

Like I said. The whole thing is highly transparent.

Oh, and here's a great promotion for EVE Valkyrie:

1 EVE Online PLEX = 1 Special Edition EVE Valkyrie Fighter + Some other neat discounts on EVE Valkyrie stuff

Virtual stuff for other virtual stuff. It costs CCP nothing, and gives EVE online players a leg up.

And most importantly, it actually promotes EVE Valkyrie instead of VR HMD manufacturers.

Also, VR goggles are just gonna make you look like a grandiose dweeb...

raven666wings wrote:


Next time read it before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself.


You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#76 - 2015-05-12 22:23:45 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...

Dude lay off the plastic bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here.
Miami Jones
Virtual Industry Inc.
New Eden Bling Empire
#77 - 2015-05-12 22:50:32 UTC
raven666wings wrote:
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...

Dude lay off the plastic bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here.


I don't think this guy has only logged in a few times in the past month. He seems so passionate about not having this go through. Kinda funny he's getting more upset as people don't agree with him.
Anuri Suaraj
The Cylar Foundation
#78 - 2015-05-12 22:53:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Anuri Suaraj
raven666wings wrote:
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...

Lay off the plasting bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard and the post button so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here.


Truth hurts?

I was perfectly on topic.

And it wasn't a rant, nor am I angry.

I also have no intention of derailing your quest to get a VR thingy. It seems awfully important to you.

I just wanted you to know that there are people with an actual brain present that can see past all the poppycock.

FYI, PLEX is just something that CCP has already made money on, which is why your PLEX heat sink theory doesn't add up.

CCP doesn't need to sink something that's worthless outside of their own virtual environment. They couldn't care less if there was a mere hundred, or a grand total of eight gazillion PLEX-es in the game.

Especially since CCP can always manipulate the aforementioned environment one patch at a time.

Also, from a pure gaming level, a bunch of people playing just to get stuff instead of playing just for the love of the game would not only bankrupt CCP, but would also ruin the game for people that can afford their own freaking VR goggles.

You should really think about ceasing your attempts to continually bump this thread up and just let it die of natural causes.

Just one man's opinion.

But I won't rain on your parade any longer.

Good luck with your "promotion". *winks at you*

Miami Jones wrote:
raven666wings wrote:
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
You should have taken your own advice about posting nonsense when you were opening this thread...

Dude lay off the plastic bag and the spray can before you hit the keyboard so violently. We don't need furious offtopic rants in here.


I don't think this guy has only logged in a few times in the past month. He seems so passionate about not having this go through. Kinda funny he's getting more upset as people don't agree with him.


Ehrm, I have more likes than you with less posts.

So it would seem people do agree with me, at least more than they agree with you.

And now I bid you good night and farewell, person who obviously speaks English as a second language.
raven666wings
Cyber Chaos Crew
#79 - 2015-05-12 23:01:50 UTC  |  Edited by: raven666wings
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
And now I bid you good night and farewell, person who obviously speaks English as a second language.
Your rants hurt the eyes just to look at and give brain cancer to follow through. Besides all your pseudo objections to the promotion are countered in previous posts, Once again, do not be so upset and read the thread before you post such non-sense and make a fool out of yourself.
Miami Jones
Virtual Industry Inc.
New Eden Bling Empire
#80 - 2015-05-12 23:05:42 UTC
Anuri Suaraj wrote:
Ehrm, I have more likes than you with less posts.

So it would seem people do agree with me, at least more than they agree with you.

And now I bid you good night and farewell, person who obviously speaks English as a second language.


Congrats you have more likes. GN kid