Crime & Punishment

Veers is Veers. Activate to double the size of any threadnaught he disagrees with.
His views are set in stone and no amount of common sense, logic, facts, or persuasion will change that.
I've tried. I really have. He's a smart dude, but I keep getting the feeling that he's the product of a gated community and has been spoon fed propaganda his entire life. If this is so, that kind of indoctrination is terribly hard to break, and he himself may break before accepting that his worldview up to this point was based on flawed assumptions.
Don't hate him, just encourage him by whatever means to discover that there is fun in this game and it's not what he's been doing.

I bet I could convert him.

The sell is not on the forums though. I bet he would be on-board with killing some can flippers or marmite guys. If there are some baiters he knows he wants to kill perhaps, we could find them and give them a surprise.

We could teach him to pvp as a white knight against evil.

That's how I started out... And that's why I started in high sec.

I wanted to kill those nasty flippers who are curbstomping noobs.

I never lost the protective view of noobs, though I've popped quite a few. (I had one get me one night in Akia (I was flying a velator, and he kept throwing my cans) and you would think he won the Super Bowl). I was proud of him.

The problem comes after you taste blood and realize the nasty flippers are nice guys. I then lost sight of good vs evil and just saw it as a game.

Hard to hold onto that world view once you've seen behind the curtain.

Veers, if you have a target list of pvp'ers who deserve to be curb stomped let me know. We can probably go have some laughs at their expense. You want to see behind the curtain, don't you?

If nothing else, I can give you a look at how to win against us.

Here is a tutorial I wrote a while back to start you. Read it, if you don't think I can help you after that I'll be surprised.

Let's go kill some clowns. We'll just do people who deserve it. I can teach you to hunt and stage the kill.

We're coming for you Tengu.... As soon as I find him and talk him into it.

Mo and Veers vs. Marmites... What could go wrong?

Maybe I'll bring my latest deep null fit: the armor rep heavy missile raven with empty mid slots and a tractor beam.

I love shopping in null. No idea how these people live like this.

Been there, got bored and came back.

I would definitely have the targeting module if they weren't so hard to come by.

It certainly wouldn't hurt this build.

I miss the good old days.

Veers he is inviting you to do something with him... if thats not social interaction then I'm not sure what is...

Jeeze tora I can feel your glare all the way over here. So back on topic did this info surprise anybody? Personally I fell in love with wormholes and high sec warfare cause I lost ships to both places in my first week of playing. Although to be fair the wormhole one they let me go and even warped me to the entrance

Who says we arent there already ? Low sec is not my thing (sec status, kill rights, gate guns), but null-sec and wh-space are.

What if I bring my new raven build, eh? What then?

Did I mention 3 people told me it's good in fleets.