Crime & Punishment

Fanfest 2015 was awesome and I'll be going to Fanfest 2016 to join the fun. Looking at all the twitch streams I noticed one nice presentation by CCP Rise.

Have a look at these 4 slides from this presentation :

One, two, three and four.

CCP Rise says : People who die play longer (Talking about new players in Eve)

Since Marmites is one of the alliances who probably kills most of the players in high-sec (like RvB, Eve Uni, Forsaken Asylum, etc), should CCP be hiring us ? it will keep more newbro's in the game.


Tora

The Marmite Collective aka CCP's Isk Sink aka CCP Keep Newbro's in Game.

Presumably CCP means that players who experience PvP combat where they have a chance of winning and inflicting real losses on other other side. Not getting curbstompped by hopelessly better funded, equipped, skilled, and numbed marmite campers.

What you see is what you get. They made the same wrong assumptions as you did, but were man enough to admit it after proper research.

Wars and Ganking are good for Eve..... Let's buff it and make Eve an even better place. \\//

http://www.twitch.tv/ccp/b/639617004 - Starts at 3:15

getting smashed up by marmite gatecampers who dock up at the first sign of a fair fight is certainly not good for eve. And it seems that the CSM vote tallies confirmed that.

Yes Jonah - the fact that some interest pvp combat, with chances for both sides, can be beneficial for new player retention, must imply that marmite curbstomps are good for the game.

Honestly, I preferred you when you engaged in your little profanity laced tirade before going on hiatus....at least that Jonah had comedic value.

Where did I say otherwise?

You're seeing things that aren't there, I suggest that you pull your head out of your backside. I took Tora's suggestion as some tongue in cheek humour, something you appear to be vastly ignorant of.

I'm not here to entertain you.

Everything I said about you before my hiatus remains true, you're an arrogant know-it-all with an overly inflated opinion of yourself, one who is incredibly disconnected from the reality of Eve being a purely PvP orientated environment.

You are joking right? Johnas' posts are some of the most well written on these forums.

And yes, marmite gatrcampers are good for eve.

Allow me to explain before you dismiss this....

For me, there is no fun in the game unless there is risk. Undocking, shooting red crosses, and docking back up really isn't fun. Now, if I need to worry about being squashed by an oppressive, strong, well funded machine... Well it gives me the danger... It gives me the "oh ****" feeling that we all hate to love. It also teaches those that get caught and destroyed how to avoid it in the future... Some even end up joining the ranks....

Just my thoughts. I'm sure you won't agree.

Edit: stupid phone autocorrect

I try to avoid feeding the trolls, yet I'd like to state, for the record et all that;

- Marmites don't strive to interact negatively with new players. (You'll have to take my word for it, go figure )
- Marmites in general help and support new players on a regular basis.

- In some threads, Veers says Marmites are ineffective.
- In this thread, Veers says Marmites go around and 'curbstomp' people (so ARE in fact effective).

- In this thread, Veers says Facts, numbers and statistics are not relevant.
- in this thread, Veers says his truths are the only ones that matter.

To all who can read, my above claims are easily verifiable. Now go and conclude what's obvious.

Thanks.

D.

Creating content since 1976

Much like the rest of the griefers, Marmite are effective against new players and pathetic vets. They have no impact on good players like me who just roll corp.

The rest of your post is, well, nonsense.

Ya, asking for evidence that dying to a mamite gatecamp where you are hopelessly outnumbered, outgunned, and outskilled, and have no hope of hurting the other side, actually improves player retention (a direct response to OP), is a derail. Nice catch.