EVE General Discussion

How come mining is such a waste of time, compared to the new incursion encounters?

Trying to mine in null sec poses a significant risk, with multiple hulks and orca's deployed. Why is it, that the reward is so ridiculously low, compared to the pew pew encounters?

Players are complaining about there not being enough targets in null sec anymore, and they blame the uselessness of belt-ratting. This might be true, but as much as belts suck, mining sucks even more.

I expect to hunted when I'm mining, however I do not want a bulls-eye on my forehead, unless it's worth the trouble.

The logistics surrounding mining ops and the billions of isk of slooooooow and in-agile ships that are deployed, one would expect the reward to be substantial.

However, it is not.

Mining is this game is broken. There's no real incentive to start a indy corp.

Instead you have people chaining incursions, making hundreds of millions of ISK per hour.

It's an insult to all those people who spend time and money to train mining skills, back when mining was somewhat of decent business, compared to the alternatives....

Welcome to five years ago. Did you have some point other than pontificating on ancient history?

Yup mining is useless, just hunt drones and refine the loot into minerals, should still be enough in the whole to build ships for all of us. Or will CCP put isk bounties on them some day?

Mining is basically a McJob.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McJob

Not all jobs in real-life are McJobs.
Just like not all occupations in EVE are as low-everything as mining.

McJob is slang for a low-paying, low-prestigedead end job.

Life itself is dead en.
low paying - well money are created to differentiate and control masses. They are not constants, and as world economy shows they dont really exist except the fairy land with few owners. So those with a lot of money will have something to burn in their houses. Soon enough.
low-prestige .. as i wrote before .. its something which is ultimately created and not objective at all.

In the end in 5bil. years or so sun implode and become brown dwarf ? So what prestige? what money? and where is an life end ?

Not to mention according to some studies from "macro-biologists" the human-race will die out in hundred or so years.

Low Effort
You only need ONE person to handle the organisational workload (contrast that with a McJob's manager), the rest of the people involved (miners, haulers) only need to be slightly more than just idle and follow the directions.

Low Skills
While maxing-out mining will indeed require a non-trivial amount of skills and costly implants and such, getting the necessary skills and gear to obtain "close enough" to the absolute maximum yield only takes a couple of months tops.
A Covetor equipped with T1 stripminers on a just-barely-enough-skills pilot with lowball (or no) implants while part of a large mining op will heavily outperform a maxed-out solo Hulk.

I must bump in and disagree with the real life reference.

My job is not slave labor, my life is not really a dead end (yet), there are tonns of possibilities of advancement in my job as well as switching from my current job to another one with no new qualifications required. I work as an assistant and translator. I have at least a dozen positions I can fill with my education and qualifications with no need to learn anything new.

Mining on the other hand is almost slave labor - you get next to no reward, you got to get your own mining ships (which are expensive compared to basic pve or pvp ships), while a hulk is considered it self a basic mining ship. With mining skills ther's literally nothing you can do to change your line of work without picking up a lot of new skills. Mining is not like life it self. It's not even like mining in real life, where with a lot of cash you can get huge machines to mine hundreds of thousands of times more than with a basic pickaxe.

Mining is plane broken and boring, it's only good if you want to do something while chatting with others and not feeling like pvp this day. It's a way of killing time, not of earning money.

But you know it will happen, right ???

Cya in 120 years ??? I doubt it. And with human-kind, evolution, etc. We are going out for sure. So in the end you created nothing, and nobody will remember anything. Give it 160-250 years after human-kind wipe out from the surface of earth.

both can ...

Anyway forget all my real-"life" references as they are not really healthy for "live" itself.

Again, I disagree! I may do something significant in my life. Invent a new law? Prevent a disaster? Maybe thanks to my actions there will be less unemployment because I'll create a big corporation?

You don't know that.

And even if the human race is extinct in 250 years, so what? I'd have a ball living it, I don't really care what will happen after I die. I'm not here to make a differance to the world (not my main goal at least). I'm here to have fun. And mining isn't fun it self.