Wormholes

I recorded the second wormhole roundtable and asked Fozzie this specifically. It was an open ended answer, and I'll check the recording later to see if it recorded alright.

Basically, he said that the new structures can have limitations on location and they will be continuing to see how they will apply to shattered and normal wormholes. For now, they are working the broader scope of structures for the moment it would seem.

I particularly despise the idea of "mooring" my ship at a POS and allowing my enemies to sit on my ship at 0

good thing, that we have a wormhole csm.

but this is a game, I am sure it will all be okay.....

I sincerely hope force fields are an option for w-space.

Indeed, interesting times ahead. I hope the changes are thought through for all players using structures though and not just the k-space inhabitants. Some of the proposed changes make me raise an eyebrow.

Like I put in the other thread, my main concerns are some of the 'ideas' regarding these structures. First things that come to mind.

- Observatory arrays: Block system wide D-Scan. How will this work in Wormholes? Pinpoint cloaked ships, significant as well.
- Gates: Affect WH spawning behavior. This needs a lot more elaboration.
- No loot after wrecking the structure. This seems a bit in contrast with risk vs. reward when it comes to evictions.

The whole mooring idea seems a little funky as well. I'd like some more information on that too before I make up my mind on it. :P

I doubt they'll totally remove the forcefield as they just remade the graphic.

I would like to see the system in total before suggesting going back to the literal blueball known as forcefields.

My guesses on this:
-Anything that blocks d-scan will work in a manner similar to howmobile scan inhibitors already work.
-They don't have any details yet, it's a pie-in-the-sky idea. I'd guess things like "+1 random wormhole connection every X hours" but it's probably a dartboard feature.
-IIRC the loot idea they discussed was for XL structures that are equivalent to stations. So essentially it's not hugely divergent from the current setup whereas L-size structures (similar to POSes now) won't have this mechanic.

CCP Greyscale was dead against the forcefield because it had no mechanism for aggression. In other ords, he hated forcefield kiting games, and wanted an aggro timer put in the mechanic so that you can't come out, shoot a dude and scuttle back inside like a coward.

That's a fine idea, but would just result in docking games where you can see what's inside the impregnable fortress.

I think the thing to remember about the talk at Fanfest was that it was just a bunch of random thought bubbles interspersed throughout a barely coherent "plan" for structures. The problem is that these thought bubbles mostly contained rancid farts as far as i'm concerned.

I think the biggest issue will be handling intelligence / comms arrays and resisting any efforts to put in area effect or system wide decloaking. Even a small deployable which provides a 20km or 50km decloak field would be pretty much death to covert combat anywhere in EVE.

System-wide decloaking arrays to combat AFK cloakers? Like, seriously, how pathetic does the game have to get in pandering to unskilled, lazy, can't-or-won't learn diddly squat untermesch?

However, my biggest concern lies in the change to POS defences. I like the fitting screen and POS fits idea - i did in fact propose this to TraitorCSM Corbexx (j/k, you go girl) when he put about his questionairre. But here's the thing.

My current C4 POS has an unfeasible amount of damps on it. Like, it's actually gone beyond ridiculous to a transcendent level of stupid. It has 23 active guns. Ewar. Webs. Points. Apparently 43% omni resists and spare hardeners. I can let some idiots waste days of their lives attempting to cripple it and RF it, and just jack up a full dullstar resist fit at the absolute last moment, and prolong their agony. it is the most ridonkadonk thing I have ever created in EVE, even moreso than the LSE Svipul. But this could all be gone, replaced by a box in space which some **** can Entosis link in a few hours.

or...or...oh! maybe i can fit giga pulse lasers to my POS. Dread guns. no one could EVER kite those in a bomber! Without a forcefield, you could effectively get at zero on the guns (which would have to use the 0m of the medium sized station to calculate tracking) and be immune to it. Or are they going to be 150km off and as weaksauce as current lowsec sentry guns? That's no better at all, because i really look forward to the day when people can camp my POS undock in Vigilants with execquror backup.

So, yeah, fart bubbles so far, but the trajectory of CCP's thinking is definitely heading towards an EVE universe where EHP and structure grinds are gone (yay, I suppose) and where conflict is driven by the desire to make your enemies recover their precious loot from secret cans scattered around space or something. Which is awesome. not. And you'll see people Entosis hacking at each other's POSs or something.

But, on the plus side, I'm hoping we will see POSs evolve beyond oh hey here's a giant space bauble with 80M shield hp" into possibly active tanked Amarr POSs with 8 lows jammed with capital armour reps. Or Minmatar POSs with shield boosters. Gallente POSs with, it seems, hull tanks. Etcetera.

POCOs with guns. That would be fun. I'd be DTF POCO guns.