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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#581 - 2015-04-05 14:27:12 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
List them, can you honestly say that the jump fatigue introduction really had that affect?
Was that aimed at newbies?

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I can't see your activties to be able to judge teh value of your words, just that C&P know you, big deal.

You look at people who make statements to assess if they have had the experience that they talk about, all we see from you is lots of likes but that can be done by people who just agree with anything that a person posts
Oh man you are getting all kinds of desperate; first killboards and now my like count, what's next?

The fact that I don't PvP in the traditional sense doesn't mean that I am unfamiliar with it. To minimise losses I make it my business to know how it works, I have a few kills, I have a few losses, but not on this character, or any other character I currently own.

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or numerous accounts self liking himself like Kaauros.
You should stop, you're making yourself look silly.

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You could be a raving carebear for all I know, at this point the value of your posts to me are absolute zero, because you post with his alt who has done nothing in game, simple as.
I'm a bear yes, carebear? Nope.

Any perceived value in my posts is subjective and entirely down to the reader, personally I couldn't give a monkeys what you think of my posting.

I have alts, as do most, but this is my main. Before criticising the fact that I have done nothing of worth in game you should look at yourself and ask

What have I done in game?


I cannot find any kills on this main account of yours, nor in the corp that you are in, your value in any debate is zero.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#582 - 2015-04-05 14:29:46 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:
I cannot find any kills on this main account of yours, nor in the corp that you are in, your value in any debate is zero.
That would be because there aren't any, I never claimed otherwise.

Next shocking revelation please.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#583 - 2015-04-05 14:30:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Gallowmere Rorschach
Dracvlad wrote:

You need to read that law again mate...

Just did. Yeap, still applies. Jump fatigue was not implemented with new players even mentioned, let alone taken into consideration.

EDIT: However, I'd argue that the fatigue stuff was a buff, in a slightly different way. For those of us who have been able to adapt, the ability to take gates with capitals has made for some interesting opportunities that weren't practical before.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#584 - 2015-04-05 14:31:31 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

You need to read that law again mate...

Just did. Yeap, still applies. Jump fatigue was not implemented with new players even mentioned, let alone taken into consideration.


You have just won Eve mate, lol Big smileShockedTwistedRoll

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#585 - 2015-04-05 14:32:47 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I cannot find any kills on this main account of yours, nor in the corp that you are in, your value in any debate is zero.
That would be because there aren't any, I never claimed otherwise.

Next shocking revelation please.


Enough said, anything you say is hot air.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#586 - 2015-04-05 14:35:58 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

Anyone who quotes Malcanis law should be ignored as a complete idiot, especially those that have no kills on the character they post or the corp they are in, who am I looking at....

Erm, are you serious?
You can't be.
You're ******* with us, right?


Just as serious as he was when he suggested we substitute his Star Citizen anecdote for CCP's actual data.

He went off the deep end a while ago.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#587 - 2015-04-05 14:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I cannot find any kills on this main account of yours, nor in the corp that you are in, your value in any debate is zero.
That would be because there aren't any, I never claimed otherwise.

Next shocking revelation please.


Enough said, anything you say is hot air.
You're entitled to your opinion.

Now that we've established that you think I'm a worthless bag of hot air and that I think you're getting desperate. Can you stop derailing the thread?

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#588 - 2015-04-05 14:38:19 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

Anyone who quotes Malcanis law should be ignored as a complete idiot, especially those that have no kills on the character they post or the corp they are in, who am I looking at....

Erm, are you serious?
You can't be.
You're ******* with us, right?


Just as serious as he was when he suggested we substitute his Star Citizen anecdote for CCP's actual data.

He went off the deep end a while ago.


Kaarous the man who does logi and joins CODE and has not one single kill on his killboard since joining them, what more can one say?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#589 - 2015-04-05 14:38:51 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Now that that's settled can you stop derailing the thread?


Derailing the thread is what he's here to do.

If the data becomes widely accepted, many of his beliefs are now a lie.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#590 - 2015-04-05 14:39:15 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
I cannot find any kills on this main account of yours, nor in the corp that you are in, your value in any debate is zero.
That would be because there aren't any, I never claimed otherwise.

Next shocking revelation please.


Enough said, anything you say is hot air.
You're entitled to your opinion.

Now that that's settled can you stop derailing the thread?




Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#591 - 2015-04-05 14:41:02 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

Now that that's settled can you stop derailing the thread?


Derailing the thread is what he's here to do.

If the data becomes widely accepted, many of his beliefs are now a lie.


Kaarous the man who does logi and joins CODE and has not one single kill on his killboard since joining them, what more can one say?

15 days newbies, lmfao, yeah proves everything that you ever said.

Do you rep Catalysts by the way?

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Gallowmere Rorschach
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#592 - 2015-04-05 14:41:50 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

Kaarous the man who does logi and joins CODE and has not one single kill on his killboard since joining them, what more can one say?

Did you actually read what you wrote before posting?
Flies logi, and has no kills on board. What the hell's your point? o_O
Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#593 - 2015-04-05 14:44:36 UTC
Gallowmere Rorschach wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:

Kaarous the man who does logi and joins CODE and has not one single kill on his killboard since joining them, what more can one say?

Did you actually read what you wrote before posting?
Flies logi, and has no kills on board. What the hell's your point? o_O


Mister brain of a newt, why would you join CODE if you are a logi pilot, he has said numerous times on other threads that he does not show up on kills because he flies logi, but he joins CODE that do not need logi, its all for effect, he never does anything in game, he just posts rubbish.

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#594 - 2015-04-05 14:46:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dracvlad wrote:
Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are!
How is that relevant to the thread? Why is my lack of killboard so important to you?

Would you like to buy a weeks membership for the Jonah Gravenstein Fanclub, only 50 Million Isk from your nearest Concord agent?*

*Terms and conditions apply, you must be this tall to ride, I reserve the right to provide substitutes

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#595 - 2015-04-05 14:49:37 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are!
How is that relevant to the thread? Why is my lack of killboard so important to you?

Would you like to buy a weeks membership for the Jonah Gravenstein Fanclub, only 50 Million Isk from your nearest Concord agent?


You said this is your main and yet no kills and yet you talk as if you have 5000 kills, its sad, the same goes for Kaauros, he is a logi pilot flying with CODE who gank with catalysts and yet not a single kill is seen.

Y A W N !!!!!!!

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#596 - 2015-04-05 14:57:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are!
How is that relevant to the thread? Why is my lack of killboard so important to you?

Would you like to buy a weeks membership for the Jonah Gravenstein Fanclub, only 50 Million Isk from your nearest Concord agent?


You said this is your main and yet no kills and yet you talk as if you have 5000 kills, its sad, the same goes for Kaauros, he is a logi pilot flying with CODE who gank with catalysts and yet not a single kill is seen.

Y A W N !!!!!!!
What of it?

Am I as knowledgeable as someone with an active killboard and regular kills? No.
Am I more knowledgeable than the average carebear? More than likely, as evidenced by this characters complete lack of presence on the killboards, despite my posting.
Is this character my main? Yes, it's the one I use the most to play the game. I do have a NPC forum alt, but choose not to hide behind it unless it's a trolltastic or especially amusing, given his name, thing to do.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Eve Solecist
Shitt Outta Luck - GANKING4GOOD
#597 - 2015-04-05 15:03:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Eve Solecist
Jenn aSide wrote:
The supreme irony of it all is if CCP changed the game in a way that these 'change advocates' say they want, the most likely outcome is that they would hate it (like they do STO, because in STO their are no victims to champion for) and would leave. Ultimately, these people are just reverse-gankers, they exist in EVE rather than in other games because this is where the 'victims' are.

SHEESH, why didn't I realise?? *slaps head*

It's SO obvious! O:
I never considered it! :O


The whole reason why they are here, is because they somehow draw their self worth
from "helping the weak and victims". No ... from *being seen as* someone who
"is helping the weak and victims". It's like the typical MMO player,
who joins a game and always is the hero.

At the same time they completely ignore how absolutely horrible it is to
*hate the player, not the character*, and behave like sick monsters who should be locked away.

It is *not* compatible to be a good person and at the same time behave like that!


Like Basil, or that CSM wannabe up there.


Like ... religious conservatives in the US of A. I am a good person, because what I do,
like praising to god, makes me a good person. I will only be judged by god, thus I will
try to do good things, but anyone else (especially those who disagree) do not matter and should **** off.

Because I am the good person!
I want to protect those who are weaker than me!


Hypocrites!
Wannabe good people.


Actual sociopaths.

Jenn ... you hit that spot on!

Thanks!


We really need a way to get rid of these monsters.
They are dragging EVE and humanity down.
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Dracvlad
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#598 - 2015-04-05 15:04:14 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Dracvlad wrote:
Derailing this thread, that is what you are doing, all I am doing is pointing out how fail in game you are!
How is that relevant to the thread? Why is my lack of killboard so important to you?

Would you like to buy a weeks membership for the Jonah Gravenstein Fanclub, only 50 Million Isk from your nearest Concord agent?


You said this is your main and yet no kills and yet you talk as if you have 5000 kills, its sad, the same goes for Kaauros, he is a logi pilot flying with CODE who gank with catalysts and yet not a single kill is seen.

Y A W N !!!!!!!
What of it?

Am I as knowledgeable as someone with an active killboard and regular kills? No.
Am I more knowledgeable than the average carebear? More than likely, as evidenced by this characters complete lack of presence on the killboards.
Is this character my main? Yes, it's the one I use the most to play the game. I do have a NPC forum alt, but choose not to hide behind it unless it's a trolltastic, or especially amusing given his name, thing to do.


I don't want to be an arse about this (you used that word on me in another thread) but seriously mate it gets a bit tedious having people like you post like you do and yet in game you have done jack. And the same goes for Kaarous and Jenn. I am not saying that I am something special, very very far from that, but really...

When the going gets tough the Gankers get their CSM rep to change mechanics in their favour.

Blocked: Teckos Pech, Sonya Corvinus, baltec1, Shae Tadaruwa, Wander Prian, Daichi Yamato, Jonah Gravenstein, Merin Ryskin, Linus Gorp
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#599 - 2015-04-05 15:06:52 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Vector Symian wrote:
It might be a good idea to give them a speeded up skill queue for their first month so as to give them the best support on their remaining with this game
That actually used to happen, new characters got accelerated skill training up to a certain SP point. CCP changed that when they removed learning skills and rebalanced the character attributes to compensate IIRC.

some new-account subs come bundled with a cerebral accelerator

https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Cerebral_Accelerator

when i subbed at the end of incarna, only the 35-day one existed. dunno what the current deals are
Benny Ohu
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
#600 - 2015-04-05 15:08:37 UTC
Dracvlad wrote:

Straight