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I never said anything of the sort. How exactly did you come to the conclusion that I was? I know perfectly well there are large numbers of players that have said "screw nulsec" and have moved to w-space or losec. This is why there are so many losec alliances with small super-capital fleets actively hotdropping everything within reach. Perhaps you forget how rare it used to be for even decent-sized nulsec alliance to have supercap fleets. Now pretty much everyone has at least 1 titan.

And lets not forget that every single station outside of nul is NPC, and thus a freeport, except for those in faction warfare. Worse, you can't even hellcamp your enemies into a station or POS because no bubbles.

Losec is getting worse than nulsec in that you not only have lower rewards, but greater risks, and less tools to deal with your enemies.

For the record, I am not trying to funnel anything or anyone into my "preferred style" of gameplay, whatever that is. I've done pretty much everything this game has to offer and I'm getting bored. If you want to go fly in w-space or losec, go for it. It makes no difference to me.

My original comment was about how the poster that I quoted felt entitled to compensation because the game changed, which is a typical and common entitlement reaction to having their time investment shifted around involuntarily. What the player fails to realize is that involuntary interaction is core to Eve Online, especially when the devs make changes to the game. CCP is not required to compensate anyone when they make changes to the game.

However, this does not mean that CCP should not compensate in certain cases, and I recognize that when players' assets are flat out removed by devs (removal of data interfaces for example), that CCP would be well-advised to compensate them.

CCP devs have already said that hey would be replacing some BPOs with new ones. In fact, they're actually going to be introducing more BPOs for sov structures; a net gain. The structures themselves will no doubt be replaced on a one-for-one basis. Thus no further compensation is warranted. So I fail to see what the poster even wants to have compensated.

Lastly, I find it highly hypocritical that you would post telling me not to do something, which is itself a negative imperative. Pot, meet Kettle.

First, this is all so awsome, I can't wait to see this happen. I love it! Go Go Go, and go fast

Now, please also consider an exploration platform for nomadic lifestyle, deep space exploration and wormhole operations. No bonuses needed, but evrything possible. Flexible like a T3 cruiser.

Fozzie and co are saying that they are doing this to enable smaller entities to take and hold sov. Sounds like it will be even more just big blocks holding a bit of space they need and burning down everything else. When it takes 10 minutes to burn down everything and you can destroy outposts and the rest guess how long it will take CFC and N3/PL to turn 0.0 into a wasteland (and not a wasteland 2 a good game at that).

Everything destructible in a 10 + 50 min or whatever it ends up might sound cool but this is a game. The idea of a game, especially one you have to pay quite a bit to play (please don't embarrass yourself with mentioning PLEX), is to have fun. Sitting hours on end at a structure to protect it from a griefer with a few minutes to spare is going to get very old. Right now null blocks can't be arsed to burn down everything as we have to move super fleets and grinding sov is a bit boring (we goons do like it) but when you can do it with a single fleet of cruisers and smaller we will do it. Lower barrier works both ways even if it seems that Fozzie and his fanclub don't realise that (for nth time in a row).

Okay, I feel better having heard this. Like my posts way back on pg5, I like the new structure ideas. The POCO/office one sounds particularly cool in am immersion sort of way. But I don't like not being able to build a little space town like you can with the current POS system, and I don't like that it seems like a "One size fits all - LARGE!!!" Both spatially (the comparison to the old structures) and in terms of functions.

It also seems, at first glance, to not have generalist structures. That is, a small corp/alliance or a WH group needs a POS that can do a little of everything, if nothing particularly well, while an established group strives for efficiency, and so makes their POSes specialized to specific uses and tends towards the larger structures.

This system seems to be great for the second group, but completely ignoring the first group.

So as long as you guys work on some smaller, cheaper structures and some more generalist structures for small groups just starting out, I think this could be awesome to see. Just please please PLEASE do keep that in mind. After all, how fun will structures be if only the biggest and most well connected alliances can use them?

Surprised no one has brought up upgrading system sec. If its done right and you can keep the better low sec belts around, I can see some high sec corps with balls taking over and fighting for some low sec systems.

Can we get some more info on whats the plans about upgrading security?

I have a question for CCP.

Are there plans for being able to hack abandoned structures, and take possession of them? I am thinking mostly on W-Space and Highsec, where such a mechanic has been desired for a long time. I know it might not be as straightforward with the new system as it would be now (hacking POS). If the answer is yes, could it have something to do with Entosis Links?

These changes will convert null into a beach with with ppl. stumbling over your sandcastles.
You will have to build that up each time you log in and defend it while you online.
That will be ok for a vacancy but not for living there.
Maybe better go to a private beach that are owned by the bigger allies.
If we can't or don't want to, where are we ought to live?
I guess this will be NPC stations spread over null which provide staging for any form of not paying visitors aswell.

I don't think this has been covered yet. What sort of materials are going to be required? outposts have their own components and the eggs have to be filled with commodities (if I am not mistaken at the moment a lot of those are PI materials) while smaller structures are made entirely of PI mats.

How are outpost components and PI mats going to factor into making these new structures?
My personal thought was have both used where larger structures tend towards using components while smaller ones tend towards PI materials.

Whatever replaces the Jump Bridge structure on POSes I hope CCP will consider coding them to be usable only by set corp, or at max an alliance. None of this 'blue' nonsense. Would be at least another chip taken off the boulder of large coalitions if jump networks can't be used.

Or like some proposed structure settings so far (personal>corp>alliance>public), if you want your blues to use the bridge network, then they must be set to Public. No restrictions to the point of your reds also using the jump bridges.

This sort of strict levels of settings should in fact be for everything and every structure. Highest level is alliance (no blues) or if you do want your allies to use your structures, then set to openly public. Could really encourage alliance-level entities to populate null or even have come alliances diverge from existing mega blocks if they don't wish their resources and structures being set to public to maintain the current state.

I think CCP needs to break down their changes into a few separate issues:

New universal concept for structures across all space- fine generally, if it actually meets the needs of high, low, null, and wh space. It isn't clear that this is the case. It seems that the incentives here are all coming from null and developers trying to simplify things, certainly not highsec or wormhole space. Although the idea of extensible/modifiable structures is worthy of development.

Specializing structures versus general structures - Fine as it goes, worst case - high sec industrialists might have to maintain a few more structures and find ways to pay for them. The new functionality here will create significant profit potential that may help with that. Nullsec shouldn't have an issue with it. Not sure about wormhole space...

Pushing structure design more for larger corps than solo/small corps - This is where details on the current design are too vague to evaluate.

Universal defense mechanism for structures across all space - this idea just seems stupid. Highsec and to an extent wormhole space mechanics are all about structure grinding, and for good reason...it works well and allows groups of all sizes to participate w/o concepts of sovereignty, ability to perform pvp, or system control. That said, I think the new link mechanism should be an acceptable way to take over and loot offline/abandoned towers.