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Just some concerns. These questions are all based on the pilot living in a wormhole environment.

- Storage modules. I couldn't see any modules or structures specifically for storage (aside from the living quarters).
- Observatory arrays: Block system wide D-Scan. How will this work in Wormholes? This is pretty big.
- Gates: Affect WH spawning behaviour. Please elaborate.
- No loot after wrecking the structure. This seems a bit in contrast with risk vs. reward ideas we have and is completely contrary to the current system.

2 things popped up because it was weird:

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67008/1/Structure_ISIS5-01.png
No reinforcement on a medium sized building? Seems unfairly risky.

http://cdn1.eveonline.com/www/newssystem/media/67008/1/Structure_ISIS5-02.png
No medium sized research lab? What happened to single player use of all roles?

Standings should be a mechanic purely for mission runners. Mission running should not be a barrier to placing structures. Empire alliance standings have one purpose and one purpose only - to annoy FC's when he tries to fly his fleet through Amaar space and an 8 year old veteran complains he cant because in his first month as a newbie he accepted too many Minmatar level fours before realising you should NEVER accept missions against empire factions if you intend joining a PVP alliance in the future........

Of course people can drop corp making it impossible to grab peoples personal stuff, but perhaps the access of the items in corp hangers should be what you can only access being in the corp, that should do what you want? But if you want that loot you have to camp the station remains just as they would do elsewhere, why should you be different and the additional cost is in extended war dec fees and the same effort as elsewhere.

CCP want to make fuel used for activities such as manufacturing and research etc., which is great, what stops me from running a POS at the moment is the waste of time and effort refuelling the damn thing. I hope CCP continue with this approach because I just cannot be bothered to go to the effort to fuel something it so it can sit in space. So your comment on refuel is not correct in terms of their current suggestion, just letting you know that.

One of the most important things for hisec is that this will be a reason for corps to defend, they have something that is worth something to them, this is going to make hisec a lot more fun, and people calling for limitations for hisec are missing the point.

You might be aware of the current use of mechanics by certain gankers in hisec, they have a person in a noob ship who drops into a fleet hanger and then that is moved to a freighter. CCP cannot adjust that mechanic because it will make the fleet ship vulnerable to being ganked and would be used as such. People that have been shooting gankers have accepted this, the question I have for you is would you accept this based on people using this to gather their loot so you cannot stop them. Note that this is the type of issue that people have to accept in games, mechanics can be used for an advantage, it says a lot when people moan when it affects them and it will, because you can be damn sure that should my corp lose a station I will use this to get my stuff. But if people who use this to get loot that they should be shot for then start moaning because they cannot shoot people using this in reverse then I just have to hold my hands in the air and run around squawking like a deranged chicken.

People just have to accept certain issues with mechanics based on TZ / RL and of course exploit limitations, so people need to cut CCP some slack on this, for example that use of loot scooping I mentioned it but accepted it in other threads, my only issue with Hyperdunking was its use to kill offline modules on POS's that had run out of fuel, because that required a war dec, but still at the end of the day, its acceptable to me, they deserve to lose that stuff for not keeping their POS fuelled.

NB I know that the last two paragraphs could be taken by some as off topic, but its an appeal to people looking at this to try to look at these changes in an impartial way, not focus on the advantage or disadvantages to ttheir own gameplay.

EDIT: Personal whine, since the reduction of jump range a huge amount of my assets are locked up in an NPC station in Stain, I am selling it off and was hoping to get some stuff out via WH's, what will happen to that? If the major Sov holders get all their upgrades given back to them, can I have those moved to hisec for me? Perhaps at this point you should just do a massive give back of all those assets locked up in stations that we cannot access or have no chance to move the stuff out, just dump them into a station of the persons choice.

So, for sake of argument, say someone put in a few Titan BPO's to go from ME9 to 10 about 6 weeks ago

That takes approx 2 years

Now, what happens if the time frame to convert from pos to this new thing happens and you give me time to move all my stuff etc

BUT - assume the changeover is in 18 months

I still have 6 months left on my ME job?

I can't stop it, it cost several billion just to install the job, it costs a few hundred mil a month to keep the POS fueled, I don't plan to give up that investment

I don't want to lost 300 bil in BPO's either


Is there a plan to convert jobs in progress that are so long it is already too late to do anything about them?

Aren't these structures tied into the new Sovereignty system - if so your structure is only vulnerable to attack during the active window of 4 hours which you set.

There is still an issue for small corporations that may not have active bodies available to defend structures in every 4 hour window 365 days a year - so I would still like an AI system.

Structures that touch cloaking looks like a suspiciously dangerous idea to me.

with that said, it's time to activate hype drive \/

this makes me harder than a block of ice!

You shouldn't do a reimbursement plan based on the supposed ISK value of structures like you did with the data interfaces that were removed from industry. We and probably a lot of other people were severely short-changed on the reimbursement values for those interfaces.

I would suggest a reimbursement of all the materials needed to actually construct the structures so all the planetary interaction derived materials and everything else in the case of outposts.

Another thought. It would be nice to have racial types kept for the POSes and outposts.

This sentence got me thinking. Perhaps we could flush this functionality out into its own structure line. Logistics was always a hassle. With jump fatigue, it is now even more of a PITA.

I think it’s possible to lower the hassle of logistics from needing to own five accounts, and a jump freighter, and spare capital etc. In exchange we shift the importance of logistics towards what amounts to ‘protect and defend your cyno chain’. By doing so we can create an effective, engaging new set of structures with their own emergent gameplay; Transmission Systems, aka logistics with guns aka logistics without space aids. (Oh, we can probably find a consumptive use for stront too)


Lore Blurb;
The massive event of the Caroline Star grabbed the attention of Capslueers across the cluster who struggled to assess its true meaning. To those scientists at Insert Lore Faction Here it meant one thing and one thing only, a practical validation of Insert crazed scientist here’s theorem. In his time he was ridiculed then re-educated into an early retirement but we now see that he was correct. Instantaneous transmission of both information and energy across the entire cluster is possible. It was not long after the Caroline Star that the first prototypes for peaceful use of this newly validated capability were released to the market.

H. Transmissions Systems

Structures affecting the shipless transmission of goods. Structures package m3 into bandwidth for transmission. Structures consume tons of strontium at transmission source based on bandwidth quantity and transmission distance.

Service Module Possibilities: Bandwidth packager, bandwidth broadcast channel, bandwidth relay channel, bandwidth receiving channel, bandwidth unpacker.

Rigs Possibilities: Anything that alters m3 to bandwidth packaging rate, transmission distance, channel bandwidth rate, channel bandwidth strontium consumption, channel distance strontium consumption

Each minute of a transmission, a packet of bandwidth is sent. Items are sent sequentially and physically relocated in the minute their last packet is transmitted. When interrupted, the transmitted packet and will instead be scattered to any system in range downstream of the interruption. The disruptor will be given a journal entry with a warp-in point and inventory contained in the packet; the original owner will be left to scan the containers down should they wish to reclaim their wayward goods. When a transmission is started, strontium is consumed, and the transmission runs till completion unable to be stopped. Active transmissions create system and map indicators like cynos.


Class: M
Name: Transmission Relay Platform
Attack Method: Entosis
Attack Commitment: Short
Cargo Capacity: None
Housing Options: None
Service Slots: 2
Required Skill: Transmission Platform Operation

Class: L
Name: Transmission Broadcast Center
Attack Method: Entosis
Attack Commitment: Medium
Cargo Capacity: Finite
Housing Options: Anchor
Service Slots: 2
Required Skill: Transmission Hub Operation

Class: XL
Name: Transmission Receiving Headquarters
Attack Method: Entosis + Site
Attack Commitment: Long
Cargo Capacity: Infinite
Housing Options: Anchor - Docking
Service Slots: 5
Required Skill: Transmission Headqarters Operation

With every release you guys seem to me to be more and more out of touch not only with the game it's self but with basic patterns of human behavior and prove to not even understand the concept of motivating factors.

I think you've gotten too wound up in your marketing propaganda and are trying too hard to make this game what you advertise that it is like instead of making a game that is fun to play.

If you want variable and emergent behavior in null then you need to attract a wide range of player types. Currently there seems to be only one play style that you want to encourage in null and that is the player that likes to destroy everything and watch the universe burn. Unfortunately if you don't attract the type of player that likes to build things then there won't be much to destroy.

NRDS game play has proven to attract a wide variety of players and make space very active with small and medium gang combat. For that to work you need to give players not interested on Sov warfare a reason to want to come to null and you have to give sov holders a reason to want to attract them. I've posted ideas on how to do this elsewhere already and won't duplicate that here but chasing out people that are not only interested in shooting everything that moves is going to limit the percent of your player base that is willing to spend time in null.

Another factor that has the ability to increase the percentage of the player base willing to move to null or reduce it heavily is making basic operation easier so that you can spend more time doing emergent activities. Station like living environment with healthy local markets facilitate that.

I have stuff at outposts that are no longer under friendly control, some of that stuff has been there for several years. The thing that encourages me to build up stock piles in null sec outposts and stock the local markets is knowing that stuff will always be there. Even though you guys have said there will be a transition period just your announcing that outposts will eventually be removed and replaced by destructible structures means that I have to reduce my footprint in null space immediately. Not because the outposts are going away tomorrow but because if the outpost flips owner ship I no long have an indefinite length of time to recover my stuff.

I don't have access to the data that you guys do but I would imagine that if you take an honest look at the longer term results you will likely see that the jump changes made deep null less active and anything with in 5LY of high sec more active. Likewise I think just in announcing the intent of these changes you will see a slow trickle of non-essential assets out of null. In the long run that will mean reduced activity in null. Those are my predictions.

The gameplay that is encouraged by these changes is to have a high sec alt that keep all of your stuff and makes all of your isk and then have a PvP character that lives in null and that you give isk and stuff to for PvP purposes but the incentive to operate in null for any activity other than PvP is being reduced heavily.