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Jack Miton
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-03-21 09:20:41 UTC
Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves.
corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. He doesn't deserve the flak he's getting here in the slightest, especially after how well he's been doing on the csm so far.

At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps.
I have zero doubts that corbexx will continue to be an outstanding wspace csm representative.

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Callista Spada
Avanto
Hole Control
#22 - 2015-03-21 09:33:31 UTC
But the total sum of inflicted nerd rage = priceless. Good job on this one =D If there was a "meta move of the year" award, I would give it to Corbexx. Totally priceless =D
Godfrey Silvarna
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#23 - 2015-03-21 09:45:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Godfrey Silvarna
Callista Spada wrote:
But the total sum of inflicted nerd rage = priceless. Good job on this one =D If there was a "meta move of the year" award, I would give it to Corbexx. Totally priceless =D

Internet spaceships are indeed serious business.

Instead of laughing my ass off like my friend Calli there, I am facepalming pretty hard in "what the ****, dude?"-mode.

Alienating a lot of people just to get some internet spaceship fame isn't exactly the smartest stunt I know of.

EDIT: I voted for both corbexx and Endie, so I'm not conflicted and confused just because corbexx is a Goon. I'd probably facepalm equally hard if Endie had gone all "HAHA! I am actually a sleeper agent for CVA! Amarr Victor! You were all fooled!"
Thea Yulivee
Hobbs End Industries
#24 - 2015-03-21 09:46:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Thea Yulivee
Jack Miton wrote:
Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves.
corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. He doesn't deserve the flak he's getting here in the slightest, especially after how well he's been doing on the csm so far.

At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps.
I have zero doubts that corbexx will continue to be an outstanding wspace csm representative.


Well - the problem i have with this is simply that he waited right until his reelection was announced. Change in one or two months and i'm fine with it. Make your own choices - but running with the NOHO Tag that has secured him a lot of the w-space votes (like it or not, many people voted based on the alliance ticker) and changing to CONDI the second after the election just feels wrong.

If corbexx would have changed to CONDI before the elecection, would he have been elected again without help of the CONDI ballot? I'm really not sure if he would have...I would have voted for him anyways, due to his good work in the past but he didn't wait until now solely because he couldn't make up his mind..but because he didn't want to risk his reelection..and that's why i feel a bit betrayed.

Would i have voted for him if he changed midterm or at any other timing? Yes (I voted for Endie as well but i expect at least basic honest behaviour from someone i consider for CSM)
Will i vote for corbexx again after this? No, although i dount that he'll be running a 3rd time.

I don't like the Goon leadership solely because they have to troll and metagame the **** out of everything and this is just the kind of timing that truely fits them. So...well played Goons, just the kind of stuff i expect from you.
Buhhdust Princess
Mind Games.
#25 - 2015-03-21 10:06:31 UTC
Sadly i gotta say this was a **** move. Really should have thought of the repurcussions from doing this, ok so you may not have meant to alarm anyone and insult the wh voters.. but you have! After coming to suddenly and saying you are looking out for lowsec too, it strikes me as if you are just vote hunting, quite underhanded imo.
Faren Shalni
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#26 - 2015-03-21 10:30:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Faren Shalni
Are you entitled to change corps/alliances - Yes
Are you entitled to change playstyle and location - Yes
Are you good at timing - No

Simply put this decision was badly timed as we are entering a period of unkown for W-space with the looming T3 rebalance, Capital rebalance, Structure changes and other smaller stuff alluded to.

Prehaps using an alt would of been better as now a lot of faith in your motives are shaken

So Much Space

Adriana Nolen
Sama Guild
#27 - 2015-03-21 10:46:52 UTC
now it makes sense...
everything that has changed in w-space in the last year

Witchway
Hard Knocks Inc.
Hard Knocks Citizens
#28 - 2015-03-21 11:01:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Witchway
Jack Miton wrote:
Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves.
corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps.


At least he's being upfront about what?! He got called out on a very public live panel less than a few hours after the announcement that he won. NOT BEING UPFRONT is the main reason people are reacting the way they are.....

As far as your post goes, shitting on the rest of the people who live in wormholes is probably not the best way to convince people that your points have merit. Perhaps you should check yourself before you come spewing your typical bullshit.

Official Shit Talking Captain, Bastard of Hard Knocks Inc.

Shilalasar
Dead Sky Inc.
#29 - 2015-03-21 11:15:18 UTC
Adriana Nolen wrote:
now it makes sense...
everything that has changed in w-space in the last year




They are setting up for the WHCFC vs CFC war.
Zappity
New Eden Tank Testing Services
#30 - 2015-03-21 11:19:14 UTC
Jack Miton wrote:
Dear everyone giving corbexx crap about this: you need to step back and check yourselves.
corbexx was a wspace veteran while most of you were still running level 4s in T1 fit drakes. He doesn't deserve the flak he's getting here in the slightest, especially after how well he's been doing on the csm so far.

At least he s being up front here, unlike other groups who spend 95% of there time in NS but still call themselves wh corps.
I have zero doubts that corbexx will continue to be an outstanding wspace csm representative.

Upfront? Hilarious. I'd be interested in hearing your definition of deceptive. Corbexx just trolled the wormhole community hard.

He will still be a good CSM. But who will he be representing?

Zappity's Adventures for a taste of lowsec and nullsec.

Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#31 - 2015-03-21 12:27:38 UTC
The main concern I have is that he purposefully misrepresented himself running in to the CSM elections. I wish him the best in GSF, but the violation of trust is significant. I voted for a WH representative, not a GSF representative. The colour of the banner does matter. I will not be voting for him again.
Phoenix Jones
Small-Arms Fire
#32 - 2015-03-21 13:07:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Phoenix Jones
corbexx wrote:
So first yes Corbexx will be joining goonswarm.

I'll be playing more on my alts now than him, which I was sort of doing anyway. One of the main issues of being on the the CSM is that when ever you log in you get bombarded with convos and mails. It makes it actually hard to play the game I enjoy very hard.

I'll still be in w space with my alts in several wormhole's. As alot know I have characters in 4 different wormholes so please don't think just cos Corb is in goons I won't be in W-space.

I'll still be working for W space so dont worry there.

I have a couple idea's and projects lined up already on stuff i'd like to start with.


Bombarded with mails is a part of the CSM deal. I'd like to know how joining nullsec, getting assigned a role that takes up probably 70% of a persons playtime (diplo), rectifies that issue?

I publicly chewed out one guy who ran for CSM who was a nullsecer trying to pretend to be a wormholer. I remember what I said too. "Wormholes don't need an alt, they need a main".

Now was what you did completely asinine? Yes. Less in what you did, and more in how you did it. Ultimately, you have to enjoy the game. But publicly putting on a show like you did actually harms the game, your friends, even CCP.

How?

There was a significant push to get people to vote and that there vote matters. What you did on day 1 is showed the people how worthless their vote was and damaged a lot of the work done to get people to vote. You disenfranchised people from both running and voting in CSM. You do crap like that before going to polls, not afterwards, especially if this was premeditated (which it was). You just took a dump on CCP's progress on getting people to vote, and the sad thing is that.. well you are smiling at it.

We want the game to succeed, and public stunts don't bring people into the game, they drive them away from it. You do good work, but you lost face with a good chunk of the game (besides wormholers, because now people in the game and out of the game just don't trust you). Work be damned you lost face and the trust of a lot of people. You took a sh-t on the voting process and tossed peoples voting confidence in the garbage. You hurt an entire institution because you gamed the voting system.

If there is something I'm irked at, its that. Damned where the hell you decide to go, but you don't do it like that.

Yaay!!!!

Steven Hackett
Overload This
#33 - 2015-03-21 13:45:56 UTC
... and people wonder why I think the CSM is bad for EVE?

If you can't even trust your candidates to be upfront with you when you are voting for them, you can't trust them to represent you.

So congratulation to Corbexx on ruining the trust between you and the people you are supposed to work with/for, all because you cared more about getting reellected than being honest. This distrust will surely make your job easier.

Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations. Large scale pvp warfare is something we can only assume you didn't care much about anyway.
Nameira Vanis-Tor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#34 - 2015-03-21 14:08:35 UTC
I think the sentiment seems to be - why make the first act as a CSMX member elected on a 'I represent wormholers' ticket is to announce (in a CSM member capacity) your new allegiance to a Null Sec block, giving the strong impression that the CFC have 'gained' another rep on the CSM and certainly giving them a major PR stunt.

As others have mentioned if you wanted to join the CFC why not use an alt to do that? There is a strong emphasis on a CSM 'defection' from both the CFC and your own actions.

I don't know if I would be reassured if I were a wormhole player.
Michael1995
Lazerhawks
L A Z E R H A W K S
#35 - 2015-03-21 14:24:01 UTC
Steven Hackett wrote:
Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations..


Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely)))

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Andrew Jester
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#36 - 2015-03-21 15:13:31 UTC
there are no repercussions from this if he doesn't want to run. Do you nerds really think you can do something about it? lol

suck it up and enjoy the ride

If thuggin' was a category I'd win a Grammy

Peter Moonlight
Suddenly Carebears
Verlate
#37 - 2015-03-21 16:56:25 UTC
Michael1995 wrote:
Steven Hackett wrote:
Now, make sure to rework WH PVE with all the experience you have from your alt farming corporations..


Something something wants to remove C5 escalations completely)))

Lol if he did, they would kick him from goons.. Then again Repercussus has C6 farm with a lot of dudes so maybe all goons switch to C6 so we can farm them.
Ziirn
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-03-21 17:02:27 UTC
Very very ****** move. If he cant play on his main why just not keep him in NOHO. I didnt vote on him to get another Goon on csm. I wanted someone with no ties to nullsec alliances.

wtb vote of misstrust function!
Mike Azariah
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#39 - 2015-03-21 18:25:29 UTC
You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?

So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,

I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

m

Mike Azariah  ┬──┬ ¯|(ツ)

Axloth Okiah
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2015-03-21 18:36:15 UTC
Mike Azariah wrote:
You voted for a man, not a ticker. A man who worked hard over the past year and kept in constant communication with folks or have you thrown all the work he did with round-tables and such out with the change in his alliance/corp?

So the goons crowed about a PR coup. So what? Poor things needed a boost after failing to get any candidates in as permanent seats,

I have worked with Corbexx for a year and I do not doubt for a single moment that he will continue to represent wormholes and, more importantly, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME.

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It shows something about the man when he purposefully withholds such thing from his voters only to make a big show of showing them a finger.

Many wormholers are also concerned whose interests is he gonna represent when it comes to the new structures or ship rebalancing.