Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Problems are you need to be in large groups to use them and need support in order to want to field them... Give them a reason to enter the field not to just shot other capitals at this point. Supers should have their own race remote burst in E-WAR.
They may be the biggest in the game but it's time we remove the fear of using them in none blog form. By cutting the cost of replacing them. At this point I think build cost for all supers and titans should be cut in half. More to lose and more to build. Also the hit points on supers and titans need to be cut in half. More used in combat and fear of replacing them because of the cost is just dumb.


Aeon - Remote burst "Neut" to only 60% cap on any ship in range.
Wyvern - Remote burst "ECM" already in the game. Only change is it only effect your ship once every 10 mins.
Nyx - Remote burst "Warp Jam" for 30 secs no point needed. Only effect your ship once every 10 mins
Hel - Remote burst "Webs" for 30 secs your ship loses 40% of it's speed.


What makes this set up nice it wont matter if you get blog by supers. Some modular only effect your ships to a point and time.

Capitals are good force multiplier in subcaps fights.
Dreads can blap battleships off the field ( currently unused because of the slowcats)
Triaged carriers can change battlefield within few minutes.
In both cases we are just talking about handful capitals deployed on field.

Issue is with massive use of carriers that are totally broken.

I will be telling this over and over again.
Simply because there is almost no possibility to kill a slowcat fleet in this game.
Not because this is not possible on paper - in theory this is quite simple - but because SERVERS ARE UNABLE TO COMPUTE scale of fight needed to do it.

This is totally broken, and just need to go.

Supers , i don't have bloody idea what to do with them.
Again when used alone they are perfect in their role , but when it comes to mass use of motherships we have the same issues that we see in slowcat fleet.

No one drops swarm of titans without any support as they are easy targets, but remote capital reps without need of triage , kill every thing.

Just one idea for sansha motherships, i always loved idea that sansha mothersip have bit longer range than other supers.
While changing other supers make leave it alone, but increase jump drive range to 7 ly.
This way we will see ratting capitals dropped by revenants from time to time, and some revenant kills also - as potential support ships will be out of range.

Seriously? Carriers are OP? You were told this throughout the whole Halloween war and it's only now that you are able to grasp it. Damn, that's fast.


This premise is wrong.
During the same Halloween war, I witnessed so called "wrecking ball" formation. First, you deploy Archons in "defense" mode, hold the grid and **** in local. If some threat appears (like dreads), you 1) jump in motherships which are in "logistics" mode; 2) switch Archons to "attack" mode; 3) wreak havoc; 4) **** in local.
That setup, in spite of using modes, could only be defeated if we dogpile more supers and titans. It was demonstrated in B-R5.

Thus, the idea of modes is irrelevant.
Furthermore, modes are the gimmick for T3 ships. For ordinary ships, modes are realized via fitting. You feel like carriers take too many roles at the same time? Cut fitting slots, problem solved.

Modes are not going to fix the problems with Carriers, if you can easily transition between them. You need to seriously nerf the Carriers' remote repair ability when they are out of Triage. Put more of the bonus onto the Triage modules and less on the base hull.

For Supercarriers, the electronic warfare immunity was a stupid idea and needs to go. That is the biggest thing.

Ever since I started reading the Lost Fleet series of books by Jack Campbell, I've thought that the Rorqual should have a limited capability to manufacture ammunition, cap boosters and drones...

One change I'd like to see made to supercarriers, which has no bearing on their role or combat effectiveness is local drones orbiting/ flying about the ship. These would be a graphical change only and could be client based, so that they have no effect on the server, there should probably be an option to turn them on or off as I'd assume that you'd probably want them turned off in a large fleet fight.

Well you couldn't scale one down and not the other, or the super-carrier could hold thousands of fighters.

Not that it matters since as usual the fact that two carriers can refit off the other to put drones into the drone bay from the 10k m3 corp hangar array means that attempts to scale down the number of non fighter drones by modifying drone bay size are useless.

And now that carrier fleets tend to only go one or two jumps max for an op, you don't even need to keep most of your space full of spare topes.

I've never flown a capital ship. Most of my EVE time has been spent in Low Sec engaged in FW. When Phoebe changes were implemented caps became more viable in the Low Sec world, so I started training them.

Honestly, I think it is probably for the best that Caps start to be used less in 0.0 Sov fighting, but that's an opinion from someone who's had nothing to do with 0.0 sov so far.

My advice is to wait to see what kind of fights are developing once Entosis Sov goes into effect. I'm seeing lots of discussion in this thread based on how unbalanced the *current* Cap meta is and how *current* battles are being negatively impacted. Throw all that thinking away, because Entosis Sov *will* render it moot.

I speculate that Caps will have plenty of utility if people think about using them dynamically to support the kinds of engagements Entosis Sov will be generating. Having battles spread out over entire constellations in and of itself will be huge. Many of the complaints about Caps / Supercaps that are referenced here depend on exactly the kind of massive concentrated battles that Entosis Sov will be making *much* more rare.

Imagine instead of only logging in cap / supercap fleets for that one massive escalation, that cap fleets are instead deployed as needed to support an entire constellation or region wide offensive consisting of numerous subcap fleets out completing sov objectives. You might only need to deploy a single carrier at a clutch moment in one fight, while still keeping your dreds on standby incase an entirely different fleet gets hotdropped by the enemy. Maybe that hotdrop happens at the same time that the first carrier gets counterdropped. Did you keep enough caps on standby to support both engagements?

These are the kinds of things that will be happening, and they have the potential to be awesome even with the cap meta as it is.

Just make it so that Carriers cannot carry subcapital drones. Problem solved.

Compensate with a bonus to smartbomb cycle time or damage (for racial damage type only).

Half of you people don't have any idea of how terrible fighters are. They die in an instant to any fleet and they are barely usable against subcaps.