EVE General Discussion

Some people dont have the same time like we used to. I used to be able to play EvE for 4-5 hours a day but now, Well with a job, house maintenance etc It's hard to find the time some days.

CCP haves (yet another) serious issue with the reward-for-time nature of many EVE mechanics*. It means that many activities are not rewarding at all unless you spend a lot of time in a single stride, and that ability to spend several hours doing a single thing with undivided attention becomes a rarer commodity as people move on with their lives.


*that includes player mechanics like "roaming for a good fight", not just obvious developer mechanics

Nailed it.

Also for me personally, the last 12 months of tweaks and minor additions have done nothing to reinvigorate my interest in the game.

Heh, that sounds familiar. Rebalances of PvP ships I don't give a rat's ass of them, changes to mechanics I never used nor have the lesser interest in them, and meanwhile here I am... doing the same things i did in february 2009 when Ishtanchuk was born.

And I know that there will not be new clothing items with Scylla, and I know that then it will be very tough to justify waiting for the next release. I'm not planning yet to take another break, but the road is becoming uphill...

Needs.... Walking in Stations with casinos, bars & stripclubs. Or bust.

Perhaps it needs to revisit its really bad PVE missions at least and work on improving them as well as taking into account player feedback. I personally don't mind risk at all in EVE, and think also that it adds a fun element to the game, but when that risk seems nearly pointless it becomes pointless.

I suppose there are always looking for rare ships in losec or in nullsec and hoping to get some nice bpc drops as well. There is ratting as well and that can be lucrative, but frankly I think CCP can spruce it up and manage to make some things considerably better and rebuild those aspects of the PVE game that are pretty old, broken, or just don't work with the newer version of the game.

im going to just speak honestly about it.. eve online is old and despite the fact there as been several reasons as to why she can not fill her huge empty space

1) Griefers........ yeah way to promote a game "be the bad guy" or ruin someone elses fun or.. spend major cash/isk just to get it ganked for the lulz

2) Terrible trolling of new players........ yep that's a huge one there oh sure sign right up to play eve online fly a super expensive ship cause it looks awesome or get an expensive deadspace mod cause well it seems powerful.. just to eventually get ganked and get your characters information and loss/KM posted on several 3rd party websites and perhaps even an ALOD article about the mistake you made.. <<<< yep sure that kind of behavior will make sure we'll hit 1-10million subs

3) Countless stories on other sites about the trolling/griefing going on in this game.. then you throw in scams, theft, mult-boxing, AFK cloaking and much more.....and folks didn't think this would cause low sub numbers?? lol.. they're living in a bubble

4) Attempted force to play "someone elses" way, not allowing the player to choose what they want to do, endless debates on why null sec needs more players, low sec needs more players, wormholes needs more players.. meanwhile tru-sec is empty..

5) the logic of .. "we don't need 1million subs in this game".. yep ok great selling point.. so now the actual numbers are incredibly hidden that its beginning to feel like a mega-nerd reunion.

6) Although the difficulty in eve online is very high, the time it takes to grow your character in real time stinks beyond I don't know what... folks are selling their toons for petes sake.. I have never heard of this before "buy a toon that already has the skills for a shortcut".. sure but that still doesn't make you attached to the game cause you didn't invest a major ton of time grinding the game.. its a cheap pay to win set up.. so of course new bro's may do it.. but will they stick around and play and pay longer when their toon gets nerf'd but the ccp nerfbat..

7) Nerfs.....oh yeah the "im unsubbing" threats are numerous then they eventually come back.. even ccp balks at the threats now.. of course unless its a major number.. then they'll post pretty charts and pies saying look what the data shows...

8) Elitism...this is in every mmo.. sometimes to the point it helps single player games look even better to play cause you don't have to hear some ego-centric player telling you something.

9) Eve Online unless they get their heads out of their behinds will NOT be able to keep up or maintain even decent subs when the competition comes their way.. they know this, they cant admit it of course, but its true.. VR-gimmicks never last long.. anyone remember Nintendo's attempt at it?? Valkerie can fail but I betcha atleast the CGI cutscenes will look good while its failing..

10) eve onlines community are to blame for her low numbers, many are in denial about it, you have way too many trolls and griefers running around, you have dev's that protect them, you have broken mechanics that is taking them forever to fix (remember they love to debate something while debating something just to debate something else then pretend there is nothing to debate cause well.. everyone wanted new cloaking animations that was a high priority).

Also I don't think you idiots realize what a niche product Eve is. It is legitimately a "Bad Game" and if the inherent edgelord piratey/space game of thrones crap wasn't in the game and this suddenly became a theme-park MMO it would be the absolute worst one and would be free to play then canceled within a year.

Look at the sub numbers after any great tale of treachery/murder reaches the MSM. They go through the roof.

EvE is a business. If CCP had the choice to get rid of all the skinny pale nerds that take out their angst against the world here in EvE with rude, trolling and abusive behavior in exchange for double or triple the number in decent human beings they'd' do so instantly. At the end of the day they're in this to make money.

I agree with you on one point, EvE is supposed to be a bad game, its supposed to be ruthless, cruel and dangerous however over the years that in game behavior has transformed into out of game behavior which is unacceptable to the average gamer.

In the early days we had characters like Tank CEO, who were ruthless, cruel and dangerous but they didn't cross the line into harassment, abuse and hate on the forums, on TS, didn't suggest people killed themselves, didn't follow people around for months trying to get them to quit the game.

When things got out of hand due to patch creep, such as the ability to insta-gib a ship in high sec, they game was changed to prevent that from happening.

You're basically a newb so you don't know what EvE was like when it was popular. I do and so I know you're incorrect.