Ships & Modules

So how often do you truly solo, no scouts and links?

On a more serious note, there is a lot of info available on players on the Internet, and you really have inquiries about me (and if it's not an internet pillow fight), i'll be happy to answer through eve-mails. Just know that I would not reproach you with giving out advice out of nowhere, if i was myself a stranger to the curse and to solo (the fake and the true) pvp.

Yeah in post #4 I mentioned that launchers would be offlined bro.

Go the Stratios if you want to solo kills. Both of the fits posted seem fine.

The Pilgrims solo engagement profile is pretty narrow however you fit it (turret based ships that rely on cap) and most ratters in null will use drones. In my experience the Pilgrim has average dps and is a little squishy. It has a hard job tackling and taking down bigger targets before their friends arrive even if the target is capped out.

The Pilgrim shines as a covert cyno ship for blops gangs. However, T3s trump them both.

Navy 800's are better in the time it takes to use and reload all 4 400's (1200 total) you can load and fire two 800's (1600)
pull the sisters probes and use d-scan to hunt allows you to stick a small neut which is handier for keeping people capped out and allows you to actually neut multiple ships more easily. If you insist on using a probe launcher to hunt I would still suggest using a normal core probe launcher to save the money, plus if your quarry sees combats they will get spooked. I usually fly in WH space though k-space may be different.

By the way, all the input has been quality. Thanks alot =]

It all depends on where you pvp. Sov null will be limited due to station access but in npc it'll work fine, if you make use of a more active station you can also set up courier contracts.

Fitting wise there's 2 tactics you can follow: the "old" armour version which is slow and short range and a "mini shield Curse" which, while lacking a TD, can do really well. They have a different target selection and a completely different play style, personally I'm not a fan of slow short range ships for solo 0.0 pvp unless they're cheapo/insurable. Lots of stuff Tung Yoggi says makes sense (of course) and for that reason being a sitting duck in an AB cruiser, even though it's a cloaker, is far from ideal so the "in between" option of a shield kiting Pilgrim is actually very viable.

Lots of people still haven't adapted to the Pilgrim change and as such are blind to the shield version still thinking that slow&short range is how a Pilgrim "must be", they base their opinions on that outdated "knowledge".

The fit you posted works fine though assuming you want to use the armour tactic, just bring a depot with a MAR and travel fit. Also remember that you'll have to "refuel" often and get new cap boosters. There is a case to be made for a plate/M(A)AR hybrid, it all depends on the situation.

Shield wise just think Curse without the TD. It could look something like this but, again, it all depends on the scenario and chosen targets. It's also less frustrating when trying to catch a target because the armour pilgrim is slow as fck and it needs to get real close to tackle.


[Pilgrim, Shield]
Damage Control II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Disruptor II

Medium Energy Neutralizer II
Core Probe Launcher II, Core Scanner Probe I
Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Medium Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Please point out this ignorance on solo pvp. "durr, longer neuts are handy when dealing with linked kiters"? Well yes, this is obvious. "durr, TD is VERY handy especially as it gets a bonus"? Well yes, this is obvious. But it's countered by "cloak is pretty useful when truly solo". It might not be everyone's/your preferred play style, stuff like "part of the excitement" and "fight like a man" is a clear indication in that regard but that doesn't in any way change the validity of either play style, if anything it diminishes your "lol, you know nothing" to a "my preferred play style is best, the rest just sucks", which is dumb.

I failed nothing, your "I'll let you figure that out" shows you think you're the only one knowing about this "super secret" of neut range. You're not and as it's pretty much basic knowledge it's not something that needs explaining much. It was countered by my "cloak allows you to avoid unfavourable fights" which I also didn't fully explain on because it's pretty much basic knowledge, just as neut range is.

According to your logic any ship that doesn't have 30+km neut range is thus bad and doesn't work. MY point is that covert cloaked ships, while obviously less powerful, have massive advantages. They won't appeal to everyone, they're not "manly" enough (if that doesn't shout low self esteem I don't know what does) but that doesn't diminish their usage.

I've explained with a few examples why you have vastly improved combat capabilities with the curse's neut range. You're refusing to see my arguments, and twisting what ive said to serve your home-made narrative. Prime example:
Where did i say that ?

Just stop embarassing yourself, and actually try the ship. Try solo pvp for once instead of delving in this fruitless forum war, the more we talk, the less you make sense. Bad faith will not serve your point.