Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Yup. I also remember the doomsaying in the feedback thread that this would only hurt the little people, big blocs immune. terrible idea, terrible...DOOM DOOM. Sounds a lot like the new sov thread.....hopefully it turns out just like this

You're correct. You do have as much right as anyone to enjoy mechanics...which is none whatsoever. Your subscription allows you the privilege to play the game thats given to you. The privilege to post on these forums with any dissatisfaction and suggestions and ideas (if you had any). But no rights are afforded outside the ones on the EULA. If you werent so stuck up, you'd realise you dont even own the capital ship youre whining over.

The consensus is in fact that small time players are enjoying the game more from the jump drive changes. There are other ways to restrict titan blappers, but this is the one everyone but you is enjoying.

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Don't let the door hit you on the way out. If you contract me all your stuff, I'll make sure to keep it safe for you until you come back.
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One less washbag with an overblown sense of entitlement.

So you are angry at changes to the game that affect your game play, join a VERY LONG line of others that are in the same place and this has noting to do with the jump fatigue mechanic.

I still cannot get my logical head around these get rid of jump fatigue arguments so here we go.

"Jump fatigue is not creating the changes in nul that CCP claimed it would."
CCP never claimed that jump fatigue all by itself would solve the issues with nul. In fact at release date they very clearly stated that it WOULD NOT solve the problems, that jump fatigue was only a required first step down the path to what we all hope will be a better future for nul and it's occupants. So where did this silly idea that jump fatigue was the magic bullet fix for nul sec ever come from anyway? is it possible that this is just a fabrication on the part of the anti-jump fatigue crowds part to try and drum up support for it's removal?

"I hate jump fatigue because it destroys my game play style"
As I stated above, news flash you are not the only group of players in the history of EvE that have had their game play style destroyed or significantly changed. The wait until all of the changes are made applies here as well, perhaps once all is said and done jump fatigue will be a memory. As a personal note if your entire play style and enjoyment of EvE revolves around the unrestricted use of jump drives etc then what else can I say but so sad for you, sorry to see you go but whatever.

"Jump fatigue has to go"
Well news flash one and all, since it is part of a plan that is not fully implemented I think it is safe to say that you will not get your wish for quite some time to come. So make your decisions now, accept what is and work with it while the rest of the changes roll out, or quit it is your decision. Personally I hope you all decide to gut it out and see where it all goes before you say goodbye.

If jump fatigue is meant to stop supercap blobs from moving back and forth across the map, why give it to everyone?

Why also cripple Rorquals/Jump Freighters when your intended target is supercaps?

Why not just cripple the boats that you want to cripple? Why is this collateral damage necessary?

If DARKNESS. were actually trying to fight in fountain they might get more fights. They are certainly not putting in much effort down here at all.

Jump Fatigue was a HORRIBLE system and was literally OVERKILL when coupled with the Jump Range nerf that applied.

The issue with JF is the lack of a cap to it. 30 days for the timer is NOT a cap and basically kills any use of Jump Bridge to get around your own damn region (it IS what they are there for).

A proper adjustment to JF?

Make the "Cap" to JF be 1 day, and adjust the "red" timer to be 30 min when capped out (rather then the Hour it is now). This means you can move about your own cyno beacons picking things up in a Carrier (*ahem* cap mods being one).

The biggest issue to JF was its application to Jump Bridges (which was pants on head ********). This needs to be removed from Jump Bridges, as everything from a ******* POD gets the full hour (blue) timer.



The Range Nerf alone was sufficient for reducing "force projection" which really wasn't much of an issue with a few fringe cases.


As primarily being a Capital Pilot, this whole system I fight with every day.


Oh and Black Ops Battleships (and there portals) should also be EXEMPT form the system, these ships (Ninjas) are the only thing in the game that best counteracts the blob as they can be here nor there in a moments notice.

Without the fatigue element range reduction would not get the job done, it would be literally a matter of positioning more cyno alts (well within the scope of even a small entity) leading to a small increase in deployment times for the extra jumps and a continuation of the then status quo rather than having any real effect.

As to force projection not being much of an issue outside of "fringe cases" that is either wilful ignorance or pointless trolling.

100% correct answer .

So punt a bowhead (Hi there 90% fatigue reduction and a bigger bay than a carrier). Adapt. Adjust.

Or, you know, cry about it on the forums. I know what'll get results quicker.


The point you're blindly ignoring is that, in fact 90% of carrier pilots were not in fact using it as a glorified shopping cart. They were dropping left, right and centre at a whiff of action (T1 cruiser gang apparently counts as "action") because they're so bored with the seas of blues for 50 jumps in every direction.

If you're transporting, use the transport ships, you know...the ones with reductions built into the hull.