Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Reduce the drop rates or add more drops for Anon escalations. More frequency, less drops - Maintain the current tables for escalations from scanned sites.

Or add other tweaks to anon escalations, more travel, harder difficulty or whatever else. Just my biased opinion as a guy who scans sites as opposed to anons (FW space has none)

Never ganked anyone in high sec before. 5/10s and above have potentially great payouts and should have the same risk associated with them as there always has been (being in low/null)



The change they made is that if you have a negative sec status your DED escalation will never spawn in high sec. If you have a postiive sec and run anoms in highsec you can get 5/10s and 6/10s in high sec, while the rest of us run risk by scanning and running them in low.



Loot table for a DED is the same regardless of where it is ran.

The 5/10 in hisec has exactly the same risk associated as the 5/10 in losec null, but you have the additional risks then associated with being in losec/null. This is balanced out by the increased frequency of the escalations in lower security space


Those in losec/null also get greater rewards by virtue of the greater frequency of available escalations (even if it is because you are willing to run all of the lower sec escalations rather than the 1 in 5-6 that show up in hisec)



Thanks for clarifying, I thought it also scaled with sec rating of the system.

I have no problem with the odd 5/10 popping up in hisec as it gives a nice reward to the persistent explorer and also may well entice those who receive them into more losec forays in future.

As for the original post a player who is hunting other players to gank in sites should not receive an easy mode access to the escalation site. The player running the site had to (possibly) scan down and run a combat anom to receive the escalation. Any other player can do the same if they also want the escalations or can use combat probes and check the ships in a system. If they aren't willing to make this effort then they don't deserve to crash the escalation site.

Hisec exploration is pretty much risk-free. There's Concord, remember? The only real risk is that someone will scan you, come in and steal your loot at the last moment. But there's an entire host of things you can do about that, specially in the sites with 6 stasis towers in the last room and a loot structure with 300k EHP. Not to mention you can add some ECCM to your ship, making it close to impossible to probe down.



As stated above many times - an anom in LS accidentally escalating to a DED5 in HS once in a while is not the problem. The problem is HS anoms escalating to DED sites in HS almost every time. You don't get 1 in 5-6 showing up in HS, you get 1 in 5-6 showing up in LS, and the rest in HS. Out of dozens of DED5 I got, only a couple were in lowsec.



Persistent would be OK. No really, if someone's been scanning in lowsec for a week, evading camps and what not, I'm perfectly fine with them enjoying a safe escalation in HS.

The problem is that the anoms that escalate to DED5 in HS are easy and safe. As in T1 frigate with 5mil SP easy. They don't even need to be scanned - they just appear in your damn scanner without probes.

In this perspective, persistent gains an entire different meaning. It becomes "Open 3-5 clients with 2-3 week old chars, warp them out to different anoms, launch drones, wait 5 minutes, collect Highsec DED5 sites to do on your main farming alt". No brainpower involved. No skills. No risk. Not even controlling your ship beyond starting local tank when you warp in.

I'm not sure this is what the OP meant in the first place, but I agree with you here.

There is an occasional lowsec site escalating to HS. That's fine. There is an occasional DED5 site in HS. I've seen one or two in my years exploring. That's fine. I've seen dozens of highsec anomalies escalate to DED5 in highsec just this year alone. That's not fine and seems like a bug with Angel anomalies specifically, that was missed when the extra DED sites were introduced some time ago. Serpentis certainly do NOT have this behaviour and I would need to check what Sansha Den escalates to (Sansha were the other faction that did not have a DED4 at the time, but they did have a DED3).

EDIT:
Judging by the Wiki, Sansha Den (Highsec anomaly) also escalates to DED5. Same story - Sansha did not have a DED4, so the escalation was to DED5. Nobody cared since they were VERY rare. Now they are common and Sansha do have a DED4, yet the site it escalates to is unchanged.

This isn't as big a problem as the Angel sites, since Dens are a lot rarer in HS than Refuges, but still should be fixed.