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Most overpowered module in the game
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DHB WildCat
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#1 - 2011-12-03 05:14:16 UTC
Isnt actually a mod but drones.

ECM drones need to have a major look at. When every single one of my rohk / hyperion / maelstrom fits drops a turret for a smartbomb we have a problem!

Yes the smartbomb kills the drones fast if its a "large" smartbomb. Meaning smaller class ships that cannot fit a large smartbomb are in serious peril. 20 Seconds is too long to be taken out of a fight. Too much happens in that time period.

Also how the hell do "light" ecm drones jam a battleship nearly 70% of their cycles?

I can understand a falcon being able to do this, but when a hurricane can throw several light ecm drones at you with NO ecm or drone bonus to the ship, the drones should not be able to jam so well. This has been a long time comming for the most overpowered item in this game.

Discuss and have fun 8)
Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2011-12-03 05:18:45 UTC
ECCM?
Losing mid > losing gun
Also helps vs the falcon :P
DHB WildCat
Out of Focus
Odin's Call
#3 - 2011-12-03 05:21:45 UTC
Nalha Saldana wrote:
ECCM?
Losing mid > losing gun
Also helps vs the falcon :P


If ECCM worked... that would be an option. I've tested a vindi with an ECCM mod and grail implants. Get jammed by falcons about 30% of the time, ecm drones 60%. ECCM doesnt work 8(
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#4 - 2011-12-03 05:25:13 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
hyperion


i know you're trolling, i'm onto you

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Horse Feathers
CAStabouts
#5 - 2011-12-03 05:26:30 UTC
Hype is a great small gang boat, dude.

thhief ghabmoef
Lord Booya
Doomheim
#6 - 2011-12-03 05:27:31 UTC
Andski wrote:
DHB WildCat wrote:
hyperion


i know you're trolling, i'm onto you



You obviously havent seen his last video, but on topic...... yeah ecm drones need some major nerfing
Liang Nuren
No Salvation
Divine Damnation
#7 - 2011-12-03 06:40:14 UTC
The entire mechanic behind ECM is what's broken - not the modules or the drones. This has been known for years.

-Liang

I'm an idiot, don't mind me.
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-03 06:55:50 UTC
I was just jammed 40 secs in a row by ECM drones on a fight I was going to win.
I'm crying.

Nerf ECM drones.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#9 - 2011-12-03 07:40:05 UTC
warp scrams and points are broken why should a 250k isk rifter keep my 2b isk blingdicator from warping off that is bullshit

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Julia Connor
P R O M E T H E U S
From Anoikis
#10 - 2011-12-03 08:11:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Julia Connor
200mil isk HIC bubbling 400bil worth of ships. I can haz nerf? and btw, the most overpowered module is SIEGE MOD II
Julia Connor
P R O M E T H E U S
From Anoikis
#11 - 2011-12-03 08:12:07 UTC
meh, double post?
Roime
Mea Culpa.
Shadow Cartel
#12 - 2011-12-03 08:29:55 UTC
I have to waste either low slots or mid slots on my every ship because all the enemies now use weapons on me

Nerf everything

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grazer gin
Raving Rednecks
#13 - 2011-12-03 10:12:57 UTC
Im guessing we are mad for prolly loosing ANOTHER rattler/CNR/tengu in low sec

Really dude just L2scout
aeronik
MAENNLICH UND GEFAEHRLICH
#14 - 2011-12-03 11:24:05 UTC
DHB WildCat wrote:
Isnt actually a mod but drones.

ECM drones need to have a major look at. When every single one of my rohk / hyperion / maelstrom fits drops a turret for a smartbomb we have a problem!

Yes the smartbomb kills the drones fast if its a "large" smartbomb. Meaning smaller class ships that cannot fit a large smartbomb are in serious peril. 20 Seconds is too long to be taken out of a fight. Too much happens in that time period.

Also how the hell do "light" ecm drones jam a battleship nearly 70% of their cycles?

I can understand a falcon being able to do this, but when a hurricane can throw several light ecm drones at you with NO ecm or drone bonus to the ship, the drones should not be able to jam so well. This has been a long time comming for the most overpowered item in this game.

Discuss and have fun 8)


Three tiny EC-300 drones are able to jamm a Curse two times in a row (happened to me some days ago). So yes, ECM minions are way too strong. But that's only one major problem with ECM. Falcons are also overpowered. It makes me really sad when you're trying to hug a small gang and they have at least one Falcon to perma jamm a bunch of other players, including Recons and ECCM HACs.
mama guru
Yazatas.
#15 - 2011-12-03 12:04:34 UTC  |  Edited by: mama guru
The problem with ECM drones is that they dont boost an ECM ship's jamming potential very much and instead are used to lock out single ships via a dps ships drone bay, ofthen in large swarms.


IMO they should change so that the ECM drones reduce the targets sensor strength instead of jamming it. That way they boost the effectiveness of the ECM modules without overtaking the role of the ECM ship in small gangs. You will still need to bring your ECM boat to provide jamming, but a swarm of ECM drones lets your jammer do his/her job alot more effectively. freeing up mids/lows for other types of modules.

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Naomi Knight
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#16 - 2011-12-03 12:07:30 UTC
use eccm drones
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#17 - 2011-12-03 12:07:34 UTC
I went 0.0 roaming once, saw nothing for many jumps, got bored to the point that I saw someone respond to me in local and sat around while they assembled their gank squad a system over or two thought I'd get a bit of fun, then I saw ecm drones :(

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Muad 'dib
State War Academy
Caldari State
#18 - 2011-12-03 13:23:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Muad 'dib
Hey wildcat, its not the drones, its never been the drones.

Its ecm and its "fubar for 20 second effect" the idea to combine that type of chance basied but yet not a ecm burst style but the full 20 seconds to light drones, utterly stupid and totally unballenced.

we are restricted to heavy web drones, yet if we had light versions they would suck anyway because they have stacking penelties - ecm drones get MORE effective *exponentially* the more you have.

That does not make sense, they are overpowered and always have been - thats why EVERYONE with 25 drone space spare always packs some ec-300s. fact.

EDIT: do you think ecm drones would get used at all if they were only available in large?

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SMT008
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2011-12-03 13:46:30 UTC
ECM drones are indeed vastly overpowered.

A flight of EC300s should jam a frigate with a 50% chance, or jam a cruiser with a 15/20% chance.

A flight of EC600s should jam a cruiser with a 50% chance, or jam a battleship with 10/15% chance.

A flight of Wasp ECthingies should jam a battleship with a 50% chance, and maybe jam >BS with luck.

Or buff all other EW drones. ECM drones are terribly OP because in any fight between two ships with dronebays, one of the two ships can just bailout by dropping drones and warp. Even if you're fighting a battleship or something like that. You can reliably shut it down for 20s with a flight of SMALL ECM DRONES. Which is ********.

And ECCMs don't affect ECM drones. Tested it on Singularity.
Lunkwill Khashour
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#20 - 2011-12-03 14:10:49 UTC
Muad 'dib wrote:
Hey wildcat, its not the drones, its never been the drones.

Its ecm and its "fubar for 20 second effect" the idea to combine that type of chance basied but yet not a ecm burst style but the full 20 seconds to light drones, utterly stupid and totally unballenced.

we are restricted to heavy web drones, yet if we had light versions they would suck anyway because they have stacking penelties - ecm drones get MORE effective *exponentially* the more you have.

That does not make sense, they are overpowered and always have been - thats why EVERYONE with 25 drone space spare always packs some ec-300s. fact.

EDIT: do you think ecm drones would get used at all if they were only available in large?

This.

The other EW drones are subpar since they are stacking penalised. ECM drones aren't.

Giving them a stacking penalty would probably mean that they become as useless as other ECM drones.
IMO they should be able to burst only, not jam.
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