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Ned Thomas
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#41 - 2015-03-16 01:41:28 UTC
For the record, I'm currently trying the salvage/drone hunting thing in a Svipul. It's had interesting results so far, I think I could make this work.
James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#42 - 2015-03-16 04:35:30 UTC
Been using my Imicus to get mining drones. They don't seem to sell for that much though. What type of drone should I be looking for?

Also, anybody have a good D-scan tutorial video?
Azda Ja
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#43 - 2015-03-16 05:23:12 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Been using my Imicus to get mining drones. They don't seem to sell for that much though. What type of drone should I be looking for?

Also, anybody have a good D-scan tutorial video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPSbWTc65oY

Here is a lowsec survival guide: http://www.evealtruist.com/2013/01/lowsec-survival-guide.html

The blog above is a goldmine of info, mostly PvP oriented, but it's full of useful info for everyone.

Grrr.
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#44 - 2015-03-16 05:35:03 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Been using my Imicus to get mining drones. They don't seem to sell for that much though. What type of drone should I be looking for?

Combat drones are probably worth more. Look for a popular level 4 mission system and scan there (you can use agent finder or look on the map for systems with large numbers of npc kills). Be careful though, you may end up warping in to someone's mission while it's still active. If the rats aggress you be prepared to warp out.

This can lead you in to another profession - looting wrecks that aren't yours. There are some consequences. Namely other players can shoot you. However some players do this on purpose to get fights so many mission runners are very wary of looters and will just sit by and let you have their loot.

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James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#45 - 2015-03-16 05:52:16 UTC
Been having fun. I am going to move systems though in hopes of better drone drops, as 7,000isk for 5-7 minutes of active work feels lackluster.

I have light missile launchers in my Corax for self defense, but they won't come online, saying they need light missile training 1. I tried buying and using Light Missiles training book, but it says I am rank 2 and can't read it. What do I do?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#46 - 2015-03-16 07:14:27 UTC
Right-click the book - Train to Level 1

Rank 2 is a measure of how long a skill takes to train, not a requirement to read it
James Vakarian
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-03-16 07:18:06 UTC
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Right-click the book - Train to Level 1

Rank 2 is a measure of how long a skill takes to train, not a requirement to read it


I figured it out just a few minutes ago. I was just screwing up something in the menu.
Thank you though!

Now I am just trying to find somewhere safe to do searches for drones without getting shot.
Tarkom Draggunsson
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#48 - 2015-03-16 07:58:29 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Elena Thiesant wrote:
Right-click the book - Train to Level 1

Rank 2 is a measure of how long a skill takes to train, not a requirement to read it


I figured it out just a few minutes ago. I was just screwing up something in the menu.
Thank you though!

Now I am just trying to find somewhere safe to do searches for drones without getting shot.


Also, there is many of 3rd party tools (i.e. EVEMon) which can help you with skill planning - you can see all requirments for items/ships of your choice, you can set there your skill plan and see how long it will take to train it, what is the best attributes remap for you, how will certain implants speed up your training and many more useful things not just about skills;-)

And as for your looking for drones to make ISK goes I guess a better place to look for them is lowsec FW areas. There is many fights going on there which means a lot of destroyed ships and that means a lot of abandoned drones;-) Especially valuable are Gecko drones - 50m per one I believe is their current price.
Not sure how often people abadandon drones in hisec, tho. I know there is plenty of mining ones laying around but that is at least partly because of how cheap they are. The same thing goes for T1 drones > don't eve bother with them.
All in all the safe place isn't the best place for looking for abandoned drones;-)

I personally believe that best way for a new player to make ISK is take t1 exploration frigate (with cloak) and go through wormhole space into a nullsec and do relic sites (much reliable income than data sites). You can train the minimum skills in no time even if that means you will see many containers explode under your hands first but with some experience and better skills later you can make form 30 to 200m per session and even more if you get really lucky;-)
Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#49 - 2015-03-16 14:40:54 UTC
Ned Thomas wrote:
To OP on this idea, a frigate would be a better choice. Preferably one that has some drone space so you can fly around with some salvage drones and make some money on other people's trash. An Imicus or Magnate comes to mind. The Imicus would have more CPU and more drone bandwith.

EDIT: honestly just noticed that OP is Gallente. Use an Imicus (you should have gotten one from the tutorials). I'll mail you a fit.

OP, don't overlook this advice. Not only does the imicus have enough cpu to use an expanded launcher, but the ship also gets a nice bonus to scanning strength which will make your job a lot easier.

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Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#50 - 2015-03-16 16:01:14 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Azda Ja wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
I have heard High Sec space is more dangerous than low sec. Is this really true? Is suicide ganking really that prominent?

High Sec is more dangerous only if you're comparing the experiences of a High sec dweller who doesn't pay attention to their surroundings, to a seasoned lowsec dweller. One can live and be safe(ish) in all areas of space with the proper knowledge, effort and preparation. It is of course, not easy. High Sec can therefore be quite unsafe if one is expecting something similar to a "hub town" in another MMO. Not so with EVE.

Here are a couple basic, common sense methods of reducing (not eliminating) your risk level.

  • Do not afk while in space. No afk mining, no afk traveling. This WILL get you killed.
  • Never ever use autopilot. Warp from gate to gate at 0, or hit jump. This technically falls under "afk while in space", but merits a focused mention.
  • Don't paint a target on your back. Flying expensive ships and fits while not paying attention is like swimming with sharks out of cage with a bleeding cut.


This may seem obvious, but a crap ton of people lose ships in HS due to ignoring the above. High sec is NOT a "PVP free zone". Concord is there to punish, not prevent spaceship violence. The best defense is being proactive on your end, not expecting the game to protect you.


EDIT: Yes, make sure you've done all, and have paid attention to the tutorials. They're awful, but they do answer a lot of basic questions.

Here's a scanning tutorial in video form: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IhqpWZo0-Q


Is using autopilot really that bad? I am pretty terrible at navigating multiple jumps myself. The system seems to do it much faster. Maybe I should just get better at this.


It is much quicker to manual pilot. You will notice that once you set a dest, you can just keep press the jump button after a system loads - no searching for the gate on the overview required. Now using ap can be bad if you are in hauler carrying stuff that is significantly more valuable then your ship or you are in a bling ship (especially one with bling mods that may drop) or you are in a pod. Why is a pod on the list? Well some people make a sport of it - in fact I read that you can tell whether someone has good implants by the speed of the pod which can lead to a juicy km.

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Baneken
Arctic Light Inc.
Arctic Light
#51 - 2015-03-16 17:54:49 UTC
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
[quote=Azda Ja][quote=James Vakarian]I have heard High Sec space is more dangerous than low sec. Is this really true? Is suicide ganking really that prominent?



The reason for HS being considered as unsafe is that fact that you cannot react first to any danger that you recognize at least unless you like losing ships and your sec status to concord.
See scanning ships at gates ? Well nothing you can do about that, see a suspicious orca with loads of catalysts inside, well can't do anything about that either.
Oh they popped my freighter, well now I can finally do something about it, oh they logged out in the station well bollocks ... P

In null and low you can at least attempt to clear (kill & preferably pod that is) any possible hostiles that you might encounter before they engage and thus meet them with your own terms, hence making null and low sec inherently safer then high sec.
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#52 - 2015-03-16 18:10:16 UTC
James Vakarian wrote:
Been using my Imicus to get mining drones. They don't seem to sell for that much though. What type of drone should I be looking for?


T2 drones. Hobgoblin II instead of Hobgoblin I, Ogre II instead of Ogre I, and so on. Mission runners can occasionally forget them when they warp out of a mission, and if they didn't make bookmarks before turning in the mission they will lose the location.

In lowsec or 0.0 you can often find drones around stargates (anywhere someone might have had a fight) but those aren't exactly safe places to be lingering (which is why no one else picked up the drones).
Phig Neutron
Starbreaker and Sons
#53 - 2015-03-16 18:15:30 UTC
Baneken wrote:
Vol Arm'OOO wrote:
James Vakarian wrote:
[quote=Azda Ja][quote=James Vakarian]I have heard High Sec space is more dangerous than low sec. Is this really true? Is suicide ganking really that prominent?



The reason for HS being considered as unsafe is that fact that you cannot react first to any danger that you recognize at least unless you like losing ships and your sec status to concord.


Exactly this. Also, when operating in lowsec and nullsec you will tend to be adapted to it, by only flying ships you can replace, by using tactical bookmarks, and so on. You'll use private "intel" channels and keep your system clear of strangers before undocking to do PVE. In highsec you cannot empty a system of potential hostiles or spies, and because the ISK-earning potential is much lower in highsec you will be tempted to optimize whatever you're doing by flying expensive, vulnerable ships.

Also: there's no real "danger" if you undock in ships and clones that you don't care about losing.
J'Poll
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#54 - 2015-03-16 21:54:35 UTC
Ralph King-Griffin wrote:
Phig Neutron wrote:
Sasoutikh, for example.

dresi, is actually faily nice, older bears better drops err drones, i meant drones....Straight


Hmz. That system does sound familiar from a long forgotten past..

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