EVE General Discussion

How about nothing, CSM does nothing, we already know that, what got eve changed? O right, the players quitting... not the csm the PLAYERS.

Waste of time and money.

I don't know why the **** you're complaining - didn't Mittens say he's going to Quit EVE Forever after he gets done being CSM chairman anyway?

Mittens is a terrible poster.
His CSM ability is good, however.

I've yet to see any argument against the CSM that didn't amount to "I am butthurt about goons waa".

Seriously, suck it up and accept that the CSM has done alot to benefit you as an EVE player, particularly since it stopped being an ineffectual shitheap.

CSM still here ?
Oh my..........

Democracy with the votes of 10% of the population is not real democracy, but a flavor of oligarchy. And the answer is not getting rid of voting, but to gather more voting.

CSM would make a lot more of sense if players were forced to vote after login so every last 350,000th account was asked and had to bloody cast a vote, if even a random one (random order of appearence of the options would fix any bias caused by random voting, and all in all random voting would be a white noise canceling itself).

Also could give the players an Australian voting system so they could both vote for or vote against candidates, and there you go...

I stopped counting the number of "burn the CSM" threads ages ago. The Op's post is yet another weak attempt to raise some kind of fictitious awareness of a useless CSM, as he sees it.

You sir are dishonest as are others claiming that the CSM is all about Goons. The Jita statue shootup, the Failcarna unsubs, nothing would have come from that if not for this CSM and yes, this CSM Chariman. All those actions would have amounted to nothing more than faded pixels and a rapid decline and ultimate ending of Eve. You're not thinking clearly and your thoughts are clouded by your personal grudges against the goons and against The Mittens in particular.

Get rid of the CSM? That's like saying shut down the internet because you're not happy with several websites. The CSM is vital to this game, to have CCP's ear. This CSM has their finger on the pulse of Eve.

Oh wait, I'm brown-nosing, those are most likely your thoughts. Too bad, I've said it before and I will again - I give credit where credit is due and love them or hate them, the CSM are largely responsible for shaking the CCP out of their past complacency.

Perhaps the next time, instead of spewing venom and hatred because of personal butthurt issues, cast a vote. Stand to be elected, go on a political campaign across Eve to have yourself elected to the next CSM. Instead, you sit there and rant and rave about how useless the CSM is and how it's all about the Goons.

You know what ? So what ? Good things are happening and although it's because CCP have done good since Failcarna, they woke-up from all sorts of pressures forcing them to do so, one of those pressures came directly, incessently and strongly from the CSM.

Now get off your dillusional ivory tower and do something about it, other than spew garbage in forums because, let's face it, you have personal issues with The Mittens and his crowd.

'Nuff said.

Hm, not dismissive of the OP's notion.

The CSM has been one big pile of disappoint this term. A strong rework of its purpose would be supported.

How so?

According to your statement, that's like removing the engine of your car because you put Diesel fuel instead of unleaded..