Warfare & Tactics

Such bitterness. Most computer games adhere to the realities of success and failure. just because you failed in a computer game doesnt detract from your real world value. Try to see the bright side, you massively failed at eve, but im sure you are awesome at real life (the 2 hours of the day you arnt working, sleeping or playing eve).

Psychological project much Crosi ?? You do know that internet spaceships is NOT REALLY serious stuff right?

Shhh - Don't tell him. This is too much fun.

Lets be fair for a second. I did once say, accurately, that you guys were pretty inconsequential even on a FW level. Its nice to see you sacrifice most of your evenings in recent months being cal mils saviors in the unapposed au tz. It really has been qute a thorn in gal mils side. I understand that you guys are upset that all your efforts were wasted in raka and nis before it but whining about a couple of stabbed alts that you had no solution for really is sad to see.

Anyway, dont let this setback deter you guys from spending upwards of 8 hours per night on eve while accusing others of taking the game seriously :)

what was this thread about again? I forgot over the FW epeen fight that took place....out right pirate FW, all of the pirate factions would have to be allied together since they all have positive standings with each other unlike the empires (atleast last I checked they did).
This would allow all 4 of them to team up against the empires and the 2 sides of the empries would have to put their differences to fight back (they did it before when Gallente and Amarr "FW Noobs kill PL Titan").
The t2 market already hurts between people not wanting to train the skills for almost the same bonuses and over production that hurts everything in eve (because alts)

I have two issues with pirate factions joining.

1) Pirate faction ships are significantly better than the faction ships of the empires. This is offset by their relative rarity due to the grind required for the LP (although someone has gotten rich off all the Worms I see in low sec!). If the LP becomes easier to obtain (orbiting buttons) then there would need to be a rebalance as the pirate faction stuff plummets in price and everyone has them. It would probably kill off the markets for empire faction ships.

2) the same problems that plague the current FW scene would still exist. The majority of existing militia pilots are LP farmers playing the game simply to make LP and convert into ISK. The pilots who are actually fighting in their militias are trying to engage in sovereignty warfare (and gain LP for their efforts) despite the farmer hordes. If Pirates were introduced this situation would be duplicated. The ability to farm should be nerfed before expanding the flawed system elsewhere.

For example there is at least 1 rediculous system in our warzone where a Gallente group o-Plexes the system then the neighbouring Amarr group that no one ever see's in a fight d-Plex it down again taking turns and never fighting. It is very likely that these 2 corps are controlled by the same players or are at least colluding. All this does is makes them richer and the 'real' militias poorer for the increased completion for our LP redeemed goodies.

I would nerf farming in the following ways...

Dramatically reduce the LP rewards for D-Plexing regardless of Tier. Low risk = low reward

Dramatically boost the LP rewards for killing an I-HUB - it is the most risky activity in FW and requires a fleet so a large payout is needed to make sure each fleet member gets an adequate reward.

LP awards for kills against enemy militia relative to the value of the kill mail. This would reward PVP more and make it very costly for farmers to try and 'game' this system as it should cost them more money to fit the enemy ship and get it blown up then you are rewarded in LP.

No warp stabs permitted in Plexes, just like the cloak restriction, if you don't like a fight all you should need is D-scan and an align out!

We would see what effects that had before going further.

I disagree, docking rights are there to promote fights, not prevent them.

Maybe. Sprinkle the war zones with some FW-free systems off the beaten path? Gives 'shoot everyone' pirates someplace to live while reserving choice systems (Amamake) for peeps willing to risk something and pick a side. I'm just thinking more politics, proxy wars, depth to the game, etc...

No. docking rights goes hand and hand with assault-ability of surrounding systems. They would become free havens in the middle of the warzone that militia could base from too, and that is broken. And people not in FW are already allowed to dock at any station, so I dont understand the reasoning.

Only if they could nullify 2 points/mod instead of 1. /me moving my stuff to Syndicate now.