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LVL4 suggested Sidekick BS? (cheap/t1'ish)
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Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2011-12-03 01:00:32 UTC
o/

Not that I want to break what's not broken, but I think it is time give my alt a new ship.


Been doing LVL4s in a tanking phoon and a Hurricane as sidekick dps.
LVL4s commonly have cruiser/frig spam so the medguns were great for slicing through them while anchoring on my main ship.

As for now, I wonder which BS (or BC, if Hurricane isn't a good one) would be more viable for a lvl4 Sidekick?

I was thinking of Dominix (or a Myrm) with all the drone dmg love along with, well, fast-tracking projectile medium-guns for shooting the frig/cruiser so I don't have to hassle around with swapping Hvy Drones for Lights -- Or just take Large-Railguns as the Domi is slow.

On the other hand, I know how nice and fast a Torp Phoon is. Web and Paint would be very viable, but I just can't figure if it is really that logical for my case.

TL;DR

What DPS sidekick would you take for lvl4?

Domi or a fast Torp/Web/Paint Phoon?

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SpaceSquirrels
#2 - 2011-12-03 01:05:36 UTC
Domi with a repper if you need to take care of smaller stuff. Or a t3. Could also put a booster on a BC.
Songbird
#3 - 2011-12-03 01:40:07 UTC
dude, just train up for battle cruisers and get yourself a tornado
then stay 15 km from your anchor and wthpwn them with the 800 mm AC's
Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2011-12-03 02:45:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Deena Amaj
My alt can't use all the nifty ships like T3 - Else I'd be purchasing a Mach right now.

Granted, I totally forgot about Tornado.
While it is affordable, I don't think it will kill the small stuff that easily once tracking speed becomes an issue. Using light drones (on a non-Drone boat) on small NPCs can take a while if they are t2'ish - the ones that commonly scram/web. Hands down, the dmg potential from a Tornado certainly is reliable.

Yet - Aside to the damage stuff, the hurricane actually could kill the frig/cruisers (and the t2 scram/webbers) very fast since the 180mm track them well. But then again, those guns chew a lot of ammo just to add a bit of DPS on the more hulking NPC BSs.

So somewhere, I'd need something that can play "flak" for me as well. Something middleground.

A torp phoon would be somewhere nice, because it could not only web/paint (and boost cruiser dmg from my main as well in the process) but also could have 3x Medguns and Light drones.

I know that medium guns on a BS is considered silly, but since it is just three gun turrets, they can still do the flak job along with drones thanks to the spacious dronebay.

Edit:
scratch myrmi. forgot about the bandwidth -_-.

confirthisposmed

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Headerman
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2011-12-03 02:59:37 UTC
I found that a massively tanked Mael with alot of DPS as well, would best be complimented with an Auguror giving it cap. The Maels tank was simply unbreakable, and its DPS made short work of any mission.

Something like this Vs Serpentis:

[Maelstrom, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II

Dread Guristas X-Large Shield Booster
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Ballistic Deflection Field II
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed

800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L
800mm Repeating Artillery II, Phased Plasma L

Large Projectile Burst Aerator II
[empty rig slot]
Large Core Defence Operational Solidifier I


Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5

About 1k DPS and a 1500 DPS tank when ur Auguror is cap feeding you.

A Domi or a phoon would also make a great cap feeder, as both could deploy drones, and the Phoon could use cruise missiles. It all depends on how good you are at dual boxing.

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Nor Tzestu
Dos Pollos Hermanos
Ghosts from the Abyss
#6 - 2011-12-03 03:23:28 UTC
Might be easier in the long run to use the main for DPS and the alt for tanking? Alt warps in in mega tank drake loaded with FOF rubbish. You warp in and start peppering anything that moves, assign drones from drake to you. Slaughter rats en masse and call it a wrap. Drake is pretty easy to get a phenomenal tank on that you don't really have to monitor. Swap the phoon to max gank or better yet use an AB/AC pest or mael.
Deena Amaj
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2011-12-03 03:38:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Deena Amaj
Hmm. A role-switch is not a bad idea. Okay, the alt would need a short while regarding skills but the idea is not bad. Would only need to push just a bit so the tank is just big and fat.

Okay thanks guys.

And now I give cookies :D!

confirthisposmed

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Nalha Saldana
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2011-12-03 06:07:38 UTC
Put your alt into a domi with RR, tank with your main with a uber dps fit, wins for all.
You can even assist the drones from domi to the main and dont even have to control more then 1 character.

Something like this:

[Dominix, duo]
Large Armor Repairer II
Large Armor Repairer II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Capacitor Power Relay II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II

Large 'Atonement' I Ward Projector
Large 'Atonement' I Ward Projector
Drone Link Augmentor II
Drone Link Augmentor II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I


Garde II x5

Cap stable RR or local tank (or one of each)
Fit your main with lots of resists and damage+tracking only, Maelstrom is a good choice.