EVE New Citizens Q&A

War declarations are quite specifically not griefing.



Blowing up peoples spaceships in a game about blowing up peoples spaceships is not considered griefing or harassment.

First off. EVE is not about SP. Sorry, but its not. It's very very possible for a 5mil SP toon to kill or 70mil SP toon. I have a guy in one of my former corps.

https://zkillboard.com/character/94235843/


Thats him. Can you guess his Birthday? 01.16.2014 He's only a Year old and he's ranked as 109th recent rank on Zkill. His SP is 20mil ish. That's goes to show how much SP actually accounts for in EVE.

Second. Good job for fighting. It's peeps like you that keep Highsec intresting. Keep it up and I'm sure you'll go far.

Next. Running a corp in EVE. Is difficult. To say the least. You are literally herding Cats. It takes someone who knows what they are doing in order to do it properly. I would suggest joining another corp, that has competent players. And figure out how they do there thing and adapt your self.


EVE is ever changing it one thing that makes it a wonderful game.

This is the biggest bunch of BS I've seen.


I know that if I go 1v1 with Azda Ja in low-sec in a frigate.

Azda would serve my ass on a silver platter to me, even though I've been playing for about 4.5 more years then she has.

Now, sure there will be situations where I would win. But most of those situations are in place for 1 reason, my knowledge about that part of the game are just higher and I have more experience in those parts then Azda. But low-sec 1v1 (or in general, any 1v1) isn't among those things. All forms of PvP I've done in the past were with fleets / blobs.

EVE is a game that balances SP, experience, knowledge, meta and all the other things pretty well.
If you don't have the SP, there are plenty of other ways to achieve what you are doing.

I agree.

Not only will it benefit your own gameplay (learn from the experienced) but you can also see how they handle certain situations.

And, you can make friends. Then you might eventually decide you want to stick with this corp and rise in the ranks of it, or again try your own corp.

But you have friends that you can always call upon (be it members that move with you or in case of a war...an ally to help you in the war).

You can stay with your own corp and tough it out if you can stand the pain... sounds like you might have the balls for it. Or you can join a more experienced player corp until you've learned the tricks for survival.

There is a 3rd option you may want to consider. Get an alt you don't use and make them the CEO of your corp, just to mothball it. You and your mates join an NPC corp. Now, you operate together as an "unofficial" corp. Of course, you lose all the game mechanic benefits of a corporation, but it gives you the chance to grow and learn without being wardecced every 5 minutes.

You can make yourself a website if you want, get a forum, use Teamspeak. You can certainly form mining and ratting fleets, do some exploring, generally get to know each other and get to know the game. A few months down the line, if you still want, you can all move back to your corp and be in a stronger position.

Really...

A PVP corp with zero kills to their name?

Not to mention you joined them anyway. Wardecced your so called PVP corp.

Think of it this way OP. You rolled over like slave you are meant to be in EVE for a corp with no proven PVP ability.

Happy hunting.

If you look at their website, you will have some nice rich targets to shoot at.

Lets play the "OP is the helpless victim" game! Please don't encourage that mentality. The OP had every opportunity to fight back, and honestly it sounds like he/she did a great job at locating the spy withing their own corporation.

Morathi, there are many players that would love to be in your position. You have someone who has stepped up to challenge you. Now go kick his ass. Make some public statements, run operations to keep your corp interested and active. Make it perfectly clear to your members that being with you will be better in every way that joining some corp that wants to be the bad guys and can't even pull off a clean corp infiltration.

Once you have solidified your member base, go give them some fights. It doesn't matter if you lose. What matters is that you fly cheap affordable ships and you learn from it. Go run some missions for two hours, throw together some t1 frigates, and the next time that this group comes knocking, blow them up or die trying. If they are more experienced players, head over to the Crime and Punishment forum, and mailing some of the mercenary alliances for help. If you are wardecced you can pull other groups into the war for very cheap.

Is any of this the missioning or mining you envisioned? No. But this is eve. You are fighting for the survival of your corp. You can use the economic advantage that you have from your pve activities to finance your pvp, and you just might win. Don't give up, don't cry harassment, don't quit. Give that guy the fight of his eve career.

EDIT:
Wait, wait, wait.

They invited you to JOIN their corp?!?!? This offers even more options. Kane has already said he will lay down a wardec, so external pressure is on. Next is to start the espionage game. Go look up "awoxing" on google and check out www.belligerentundesirables.com

Perception is important too. While I am the type to perhaps do such a thing and many others would, I totally understand not wanting to be insulted and treated as somehow less than your corp mates.

Doesn't matter how much sugar coating is put on it, overall it's still harassment that's being done to a specific type of group within the game, in this case it's newly formed Industrial Corps. Since it's being done in a broad scope and not centered specifically on one particular corp, everybody says it's player created content. It's a loophole that's constantly being exploited as an excuse to justify griefer behavior.


First off I didn't say the OP was a helpless victim and nowhere in my posted reply did I make any reference to it.

Secondly I told it like it is instead of posting the usual Smoke & Mirrors propaganda act.



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