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A little help on a fit would be much appreciated

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Arkadij PILOT
PSL Corporation
#1 - 2015-03-09 20:12:33 UTC
hello all,
I was thinking lately to try some smartbombing in lowsec, and as i already have an apocalypse handy, i cooked this fit :

ps: pls keep in mind im not a good eft warrior, thats why im asking for advice here XD

[Apocalypse, Ibis]
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
Co-Processor II
Co-Processor II
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I
'Halcyon' Core Equalizer I

Large Micro Jump Drive
Target Spectrum Breaker
Large Shield Extender II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction

Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large YF-12a Smartbomb
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Improved Cloaking Device II

Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I
Large Low Friction Nozzle Joints I

What do you think about this fit?
Should i start with something smaller than a bs?
Should i keep the "Target Spectrum Breaker" or replace it with an ecm burst?
Whats the difference between the two modules anyway?



Paranoid Loyd
#2 - 2015-03-09 20:22:42 UTC
Arkadij PILOT wrote:
Should i start with something smaller than a bs?
Yes.

[Maller, You've Been Santo'd]
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II
Reactor Control Unit II

Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Large Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Medium Capacitor Booster I,Cap Booster 800

Large 'Notos' Explosive Charge I
Large 'Vehemence' Shockwave Charge
Large Rudimentary Concussion Bomb I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Explosive Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Arkadij PILOT
PSL Corporation
#3 - 2015-03-09 21:15:50 UTC
that fit doesnt work even with all five, im far from it, i ll need maybe 10 days to sit in that with 99% pwg cpu and ill have to buy a pwg implant anyway even with all V
Paranoid Loyd
#4 - 2015-03-09 21:22:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Yeah, it's not easy to fit but it's more effective and more importantly far more replaceable than your fit.

Look up Santo Trafficante and Posax on the killboards. At one point Posax was racking up 500+ kills a week. This fit has been proven many times over.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Desudes
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2015-03-09 21:33:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Desudes
I'd drop tank for last 2 stabs and a mwd. If you have a scout on the other side of the gate, your only real enemy is blops gangs, which your tank will be shredded by anyway. You want maximum warp strength to o7 away from their initial tackle.

Don't be a wimp, BS bomber or bust

Excuse me, but what the f*ck are you desu?

Arkadij PILOT
PSL Corporation
#6 - 2015-03-09 22:26:25 UTC
nice!! ill be sure to change my skill queue to get that.
The maller is just for pods yeah? the apoc is for t1 frig and pods but is 10 times the price of the maller
Paranoid Loyd
#7 - 2015-03-09 22:39:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Mallers can also kill untanked T1 frigates as well as shuttles.

Just beware of HICs if you are going to try to warp stab your way out of things in a BS. Even a dual scram Ares could easily hold you in place while DPS is brought in if you drop two of those stabs.

Pings will go out for a BS and a blob may quickly form depending on where you are while they will most likely will not go out for a Cruiser...

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Arkadij PILOT
PSL Corporation
#8 - 2015-03-09 23:33:30 UTC
wont a scram be in range of my sb? i thought the only risks are blobs or points on me? and yes i ll have a cloaky scoot on the other side
Yang Aurilen
State War Academy
Caldari State
#9 - 2015-03-10 00:09:04 UTC
Arkadij PILOT wrote:
wont a scram be in range of my sb? i thought the only risks are blobs or points on me? and yes i ll have a cloaky scoot on the other side


Nope. We once held tackle on an SB'ing hyperion in tama once with scrams after getting hit by the initial pulse at the end of fleet warp. Don't light smart bombs on AF fleets next time especially if you're hitting their native resists.

Post with your NPC alt main and not your main main alt!

Paranoid Loyd
#10 - 2015-03-10 00:24:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
Not if it is boosted and/or range blinged and/or overheated. If it is not any of these things, maybe as it is right on the edge.
It would also only take two intys (or any pair of ships) fit with dual disruptors and then they will be well out of your range.
HICs would be the most likely though, there is no getting away from them if they get their point on you unless you are able to deaggress and survive for 60 seconds so you can jump through the gate.

Main point is the BS will quickly attract attention and people will go to considerable effort to kill it.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
#11 - 2015-03-11 21:32:22 UTC
Concurring with Mr. Loyd that battleships in losec draw much more attention to themselves than cruisers do. In addition, cruisers are less expensive and more mobile than battleships, both of which are key factors for your mission at hand.

Good hunting.

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Arkadij PILOT
PSL Corporation
#12 - 2015-03-14 11:37:16 UTC
while waiting for some skills to train ( the santo maller is a tight fit) meanwhile can i have your thoughts about the apoc fit i linked specially about the target spectrum use
Sean Parisi
Blackrise Vanguard
#13 - 2015-03-15 22:45:45 UTC
Can also fit a cloak to the Maller and sit at the Sun waiting for pods to warp in from a fight. Uncloak / bomb.

You could also always do a Santos fit proteus if you are thinking of doing a battleship. Fly around while cloaked smartbombing unsuspecting plebians.