Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Probes and bombs are the main issue.

Bombs destroy battleships so hard its not even funny.
Probes got that horrible buff a few years ago where any monkey can use them after a lobotomy. Probes used to take a bit of skill to use, I'm not saying it was a good system but it was better than the tellytubby thing we have now.

Fix those two things and you give BS a fighting chance.

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edit:BS are not slow brawlers! They can be but its not their main role....

I really don't understand why Battlecruisers and Battleships don't have a set of secondary weapon systems. I suppose it could be argued that the drone bay on most serves this capacity, although I'd argue that with limited bandwidth and storage this is more of a tertiary system than anything else.

Bad idea in my opinion.

But I would support the addition of a battleship Rig or Module that could extend the range of Webs from somewhere between 20 and 50%.

At least then it could be balanced somewhat based on fitting costs and not be game breaking. It would also not require overhauling all the battleships.

Perhaps release it as a special drop from the new Drifter battleships so it's somewhat rare and dangerous to get.

Yes, but let's see it without structure-grinding.

A NOS Bhaal it's sound even worse than shield webless Vindi... An armor NMare already available

BattleShips are looking for changes but those OP offered kind of raw and half-cooked stuff.

No, The balance system is based around "rock paper scissors".
ships are meant to be specialised to an role in the fleet, if you can't kill smaller ships then refit to something that can, or I don't know bring support ship to kill smaller ships.

Or split into two groups forcing the crusers to lose transversal on one of them which can then score decent hits against the cruiser hulls at which point they'll either be warping off or dying in a decent amount of time. Problem is we dont do that much any more because we like to ball up into one group with logi.

Or RHML Phoons :p

But logi already poped up in any engagements in the first line.

Gods you are just trolling all threads with Nightmarex rationale. Constructive critism pls. You have really just sounded like NightmareX recently.

I'd love to see a fix to BC/BS that didn't rely on improving mobility. Rather than increasing their versatility, they should provide critical benefits to their escorts.

To that end, I'd revamp the warfare link concept to be something that applied to every hull class. Command ships would still get their multiple link bonuses to differentiate them.

Logi and exploration class frigates could get a (1) skirmish or info link that only applies to other frigates or a seige or armor link that applies to drones in the same squad, on the same grid. Destroyers could get one (1) skirmish or info link that only applies to other destroyers, or an seige or armor link that only applies to frigates. Cruisers could get one (1) skirmish or info link that applies to cruisers or a seige or armor link that applies to destroyers only. You see where I am going with this. Offensive links need to be fast moving, especially in the new environment, and defensive links are more about supporting ones escorts.

Heavier ships have enough slots to be tanky and/or project damage if they are willing to rely on their escorts to provide other gang roles, like tackling. If links are really powerful, one thing we might consider is adding some sort of stats sacrifice to be in a gang, like increased max velocity to reach warp or increased sig radius. Throw a bone to the die hard soloists.