EVE General Discussion

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A decent chunk gets spent on Ship Replacement Programs, which is ISK going straight into the pockets of line members.

Another chunk gets spent on tower fuel.

Another chunk goes on Jump Bridge fuel.

Then there's the chunk that needs to be spent on Sov upgrades, iHubs, station upgrades and the like.

And not to forget the chunk that gets spent paying the alliance's logistics wing to go out and fuel those towers and jump bridges. Some of those logibros are flying freighters many hours a day to keep everything ticking over. Oh, those logibros need fuel for their jump freighters, guess what pays for that? Bingo: moon goo. If you think carebear tears are delicious, you've never heard a coalition level FC completely lose the plot because a jump bridge is out of fuel and they need to move a fleet fast.

Alliance and coalition level assets don't just "happen". They come about because a lot of people put in a lot of effort and much of that effort is hidden from the cursory viewer. Look a little closer, it's actually quite amazing to see it all in action.

People who have never actually been in charge of anything often don't understand just how much time, effort, organization and planning goes into making things happen in a large organization, and just how many details there are to manage. EVE is sort of unique in that its complex enough that managerial and leadership skills really matter. If you go into the forums for a lot of other MMOS you can hear about how 24-man raids are "too large" because its somehow hard to get that many people organized.

That sort of person, if they ever try EVE and stick with it enough to hear about nullsec is exactly the sort of person that assumes a large alliance or coalition is just a bunch of guys ratting while the leadership sits around rolling in money. Inability to think analytically and inability to organize and lead even small groups go hand-in-hand.

Well, isn't that the teapot calling the kettle black.

It is difficult to have a fruitful discussion with someone, on something they refuse to take a part of, but insist on commenting on as if they did.

Start quality threads, you will get quality replies.

it has been a couple of years sins i played last and much has changed . i feel the sov change can be a good thing and a bad thing

i think it will not go the way ccp was intended it to head tho.. i see a future where the big alliances will become bigger . stength in numbers they say.
Or can anyone explain what allready has happend with goon and brave .
Time will tell but if you wanna feel safe in null you look for a partner and blob up.

xetic , bob goon .......what will the next big alliance be is the question

People don't run them often. They make a fortune from null in anoms and combat sites. Check my sig.

Moved to nullsec last week and loving it so far. Participated in my first kill, had my first real fleet op and started making decent money.

My indie alt became useful as well as now it makes more sense to build your own stuff rather than running missions and buying things from Jita. It provides sense of accomplishment when you fly in a ship you build yourself. And with a null ore overhaul it's much easier.

Finally, I do feel like I finally own a place. Not to myself ofc, but rather share it with my alliance. This makes me want to make it better by contributing. Hisec is more single-player rpg in that sense imho.

In effect this is why you go to 0.0 you get to play multiple aspects of the game. Carving out your own space and using is great fun and gives you a feeling of achievement, my most fun period in game was holding three systems in Querious as Pirate Nation, really had so much fun with a great bunch of lads.

The period I made the most ISK was the time I spent in IRC in Cobalt Edge we had a system off the pipe and I was carrier ratting anoms like mad, I made billions, it was so easy to do it was silly, no running around systems to the next boring mission, just warp to the next anom blap hour after hour, and that part you can do solo if you have enough accounts, or intel channels that work. And the odd excitement when some person would come to your system then it was re-ship and blap, or go join one of the Home Defence fleet if it was not lead by an idiot.

CTA's can be great as long as you are not lead by idiots, the downside is that you meet up with a lot of people with ego's and agenda's, and some of them just love being in that position so they can rub up their superiority, it gets wearing when they don't have a clue.

Hisec do have alliances and groups that work together, however they tend to be small because of war decs...

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NPC SOV FTW. Syndicate has easy logistics (single jump from null to a lowsec system next to a highsec system.) The markets aren't great but trade hubs are a short inty trip away. No SOV to defend. No need to highsec alts due to those short inty trips. All stations are dockable, so it's possible to stash ships all over the region. Unlike Outer Ring, there are plenty of stations. ISK opportunities are enough to sustain fun small-gang PvP. There are no gate/station guns or sec status to worry about - you can engage whomever you wish (or can), and pod all day long and retain 5.0 sec status. And you know exactly who is, and who is not, a friend; Not Purple? Shoot It.

There is the added complexity of warp disruption bubbles, but that can be made to work for you as much as it works against you.