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#Superopcalypse 2015

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DeadDuck
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#61 - 2015-03-09 09:11:04 UTC
To good to be true... Let's wait and see, but if it happens BearBearBearBearBearBearBearBear
Another Posting Alt
Zerious Fricken Biziness
#62 - 2015-03-09 09:32:12 UTC  |  Edited by: Another Posting Alt
Myself and my other alts say +10 points for Grif^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H each for CCP Fozzie and CCP Seagull.
Cadre Arareb
The Cadre Arareb Foundation
#63 - 2015-03-09 16:06:10 UTC
So let me get this straight, you would screw over the modern null sec coalitions. Force them into small pockets or not even holding sov at all. Sell the supers and camp high sec with the thousands of people currently living in null.
But at least low sec will be happy.
Good Job CCP.

The supers will rise again!
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#64 - 2015-03-09 16:21:21 UTC
low sec, huh

Well I hear their incursions give revenant bpcs

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Evi Polevhia
Phoenix Naval Operations
Phoenix Naval Systems
#65 - 2015-03-09 16:21:50 UTC
Cadre Arareb wrote:
So let me get this straight, you would screw over the modern null sec coalitions. Force them into small pockets or not even holding sov at all. Sell the supers and camp high sec with the thousands of people currently living in null.
But at least low sec will be happy.
Good Job CCP.


Are you afraid people will unsub and you'll be left with a...
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Skeleton Crew?

YEEEEAAAAHHHH~
PhantomMajor
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#66 - 2015-03-09 16:33:19 UTC
my thoughts on capital class of ships is that CCP have realised there are way to many of them and so they have to curtail their activities. They wont remove them and reimburse people with skill points so they are slowly painting Capital ships into a corner and making them obsolete.

Titans are basically glorified bridging ships, Carriers with their up and coming fighter assist nerf renders them to the ratting roll as large capital fleets are being boxed out of the SOV warfare and dreads are still useful in the sense of POS bashing and the occasional localised hot drop. The dreads with the new module would still see active service as they have the ability to self-rep during this new form of SOV warfare which would leave them isolated during attacks on SOV structures.

With the potential rise of Elite-Dangerous offering a true sandbox experience i feel that the older players, myself included would move to a less controlled environment, rather than catering for the xbox bunnies.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#67 - 2015-03-09 16:47:38 UTC
Quote:
I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.


ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf.
Shamed he who thinks evil of it

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#68 - 2015-03-09 16:53:14 UTC
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Quote:
I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.


ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf.
Shamed he who thinks evil of it


If you feel that strongly about the thread then petition to have it reopened. Make a strong enough case and it probably will be done.
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
Goonswarm Federation
#69 - 2015-03-09 17:02:36 UTC
Caleb Seremshur wrote:
Eugene Kerner wrote:
Quote:
I'm going to consolidate several threads on Supers currently active in GD in one thread. As such, as there already is a thread on the same topic, this one gets a lock.


ISD choose to close the thread where people posted that are actually targeted by the nerf.
Shamed he who thinks evil of it


If you feel that strongly about the thread then petition to have it reopened. Make a strong enough case and it probably will be done.

Well first of your OP is way better than this one and actually raises some ideas....

TunDraGon is recruiting! "Also, your boobs [:o] "   CCP Eterne, 2012 "When in doubt...make a diȼk joke." Robin Williams - RIP
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#70 - 2015-03-09 17:14:28 UTC
Don't Care I'm Useless :D

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Soldarius
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#71 - 2015-03-09 17:30:22 UTC
Kuga wrote:
Sounds like a Mickey Mouse role to me. I think CCP need to consider future roles of supers more carefully.

Delayed local in null sec, now there's a topic. While I'm not entirely against it, I can see a glaring issue - null sec allows force projection (hot dropping), while wormholes do not. This, coupled with the issue that wormholes are more profitable and don't require sov defence will make null sec a far less attractive proposition for living. The issue of force projection (including black ops - really, why would you do this - will another gameplay option be destroyed??) will need to be dealt with before a mechanic like delayed local in null sec will be successful.

People will say "have PvP'ers on hand" but we all know that doesn't work against blops strikes which usually annihilate the target before anyone can respond.


Sounds to me like Fozzie understands how bad supercapitals are in general. Bad as in bad concept. afaic, they could be reprocessed and the mineral balance handed out to the owner and the entire game would be better for it.

ofc, we all know that won't happen. So they will get a court jester's place in capital ship combat. "Look at me! I'm relevant!"

http://youtu.be/YVkUvmDQ3HY
Alice Saki
Nocturnal Romance
Cynosural Field Theory.
#72 - 2015-03-09 17:40:42 UTC
Fozzie, 30bil and you can have my Super...

FREEZE! Drop the LIKES AND WALK AWAY! - Currenly rebuilding gaming machine, I will Return.
Obsidian Hawk
RONA Midgard Academy
#73 - 2015-03-09 17:53:29 UTC
Who would pay 30 bill for a booster ship? Worst idea ever. Unless that ship can make me sammiches and bacon and do certain favors for me.

You know if you are going to nerf them like that........ Then why dont you make it so smaller ships can dock with them. you know a carrier can hold like 5-10 pilots in small ships? Make them moveable stations with guns!

Why Can't I have a picture signature.

Also please support graphical immersion, bring back the art that brought people to EvE online originaly.
True Sight
Deep Freeze Industries
#74 - 2015-03-09 19:04:32 UTC
I'm one of those 'lurker' playtypes. my account has been active now for quite a few years and I keep training and training. I own an Orca, Rorqual, Obelisk, Anshar, thanatos and Moros...

I'd always been tempted, if to come back for anything, to grab myself a Nyx and fly around in what I considered to be pure space-sex, it's remained one of my favourite looking ships in the game since they were introduced.

I've dabbled in pretty much every 'career' in eve, hi-sec carebearness, low-sec livin' and also lived in pretty much every single null region there is at one point or another for various different alliances...

I hate the previous capital changes (I love the impact they had, the change in capital warfare was fantastic, but I think there's a handful of ways it could have been done much differently, maintaining the awesomeness of the ships whilst having the same end result).

I hate these changes anymore, if I was ever tempted to come back and continue in null again, the combination of 'don't bother getting a Nyx' and delayed local pretty much make it a moot point and I can't see myself returning to notable activity with both of those introduced.
Sbrodor
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#75 - 2015-03-09 19:20:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Sbrodor
AGAIN bomber nerf? cancel this ship and cancel al AOE effect and do directly a N+1 wins vs N from dotlan!

BUT

don't use ROOK and KINGS technique in your promotional video,
don't use Renegade squadron bomber bar video for gain more costumer,

bomber and smart bomb are the only FEW vs Many weapon in eve, don't nerf again!

we had, GOOD, banned multi boxer.
we had useless void bomb damaging a lot normal bombs.
12 sec even the monkey can warpout
focused bomb is unusable even for test on friendly capitals
smartbomb barrier..

bomber is barely useless now, don't nerf more!


'cmon don't let the monkey wins, this is not EVE.
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#76 - 2015-03-10 00:28:21 UTC
Who ever goes to Fanfest, be sure to raise hell Twisted

Been around since the beginning.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#77 - 2015-03-10 03:56:55 UTC
people are over reacting in this thread. Shocked

listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids....

Just Add Water
d0cTeR9
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#78 - 2015-03-10 04:15:32 UTC
Nat Silverguard wrote:
people are over reacting in this thread. Shocked

listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids....


Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers...

Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship...

Been around since the beginning.
Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
Aideron Robotics.
#79 - 2015-03-10 04:29:29 UTC
d0cTeR9 wrote:
Nat Silverguard wrote:
people are over reacting in this thread. Shocked

listen to the source/podcast, don't just asssume things and make a QQ thread like this, ffs. whinny kids....


Oh you mean like when they nerfed supers inmunity in 2010? Or when they nerfed the drake? Or maybe when they nerfed supercarrier drones? Don't forget about the jump range nerf... or the fighter assign nerf... and now this SOV 2.0/booster supers...

Yeah it's fine... CCP isn't going nerf anything else, or drastically change playstyle of a ship...


changes doesn't automatically mean nerf dude and most of those changes you listed i consider boosts.

let's be honest none of these people (especially you) are gonna quit EvE because of this, what else would you do/play? Cool

Just Add Water
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#80 - 2015-03-10 04:33:37 UTC
He/she mentioned they would move to a force multiplier role basically. We honestly have no idea exactly what they have planned though so perhaps everyone should wait and see just how this whole thing pans out?