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Anniversary: 1,000,000 MORE Slaves Sacrificed to God

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Anslo
Scope Works
#101 - 2015-03-05 21:37:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Anslo
Abloo, capsuleers are evil things, ablooabloo I am a monster, they say while still killing cities worth of folk. Abloo bloo this is such a dark time, woe is me. Abloo, abloobloobloo.

[center]-_For the Proveldtariat_/-[/center]

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#102 - 2015-03-05 22:31:51 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Samira Kernher wrote:
What does it even matter. He can't ever be actually stopped, and for every thousand saved a hundred thousand are killed.


I agree. Give up. Cease your attempts to rescue slaves from "deathcans"; close down your "matriculation centers" and "arcologies" filled with recovering slaves. Accept that these beings exist only to glorify God in their destruction and stand not in the way of those of us who understand this.


You'll find the former slaves at Aurora to be out of your reach, monster. They have their own monsters and we do not sleep.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#103 - 2015-03-05 22:33:48 UTC
Anslo wrote:
Abloo, capsuleers are evil things, ablooabloo I am a monster, they say while still killing cities worth of folk. Abloo bloo this is such a dark time, woe is me. Abloo, abloobloobloo.

Do they actually tell us, when we're interviewing for the State War Academy and so on, "You'll be expected to engage in mass slaughter as a matter of course, or else to arm and equip those who do"?

I ... can't remember.

If not, it's no surprise if there are some shocked consciences out there.

Or much surprise if some of those consciences belong to people who do what's expected of them anyway.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#104 - 2015-03-05 22:35:10 UTC
ValentinaDLM wrote:
And this is why, I would never make Vincent Pryce my enemy, I got chills reading that.


He's an old sweetie, really.

(Just run.)

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#105 - 2015-03-05 22:36:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Pieter Tuulinen
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Anslo wrote:
Abloo, capsuleers are evil things, ablooabloo I am a monster, they say while still killing cities worth of folk. Abloo bloo this is such a dark time, woe is me. Abloo, abloobloobloo.

Do they actually tell us, when we're interviewing for the State War Academy and so on, "You'll be expected to engage in mass slaughter as a matter of course, or else to arm and equip those who do"?

I ... can't remember.

If not, it's no surprise if there are some shocked consciences out there.

Or much surprise if some of those consciences belong to people who do what's expected of them anyway.

You didn't get the mission where they order you to decomission an orbital habitat? I thought that was everyone.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#106 - 2015-03-05 22:50:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You didn't get the mission where they order you to decomission an orbital habitat? I thought that was everyone.

I might have. I'm a little ... fragmented ... if those memories are even still there at all.

Also: mission? You mean like in a simulator?

If you're talking about ... early capsuleer work, that seems like the bit where they're easing you, um, us, into what ... we ... weren't told.

I was asking about ... before, as in, before we risk mindlock and wetgraving to become capsuleers.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#107 - 2015-03-05 23:12:02 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
You didn't get the mission where they order you to decomission an orbital habitat? I thought that was everyone.

I might have. I'm a little ... fragmented ... if those memories are even still there at all.

Also: mission? You mean like in a simulator?

If you're talking about ... early capsuleer work, that seems like the bit where they're easing you, um, us, into what ... we ... weren't told.

I was asking about ... before, as in, before we risk mindlock and wetgraving to become capsuleers.

Your pardon, but I'm tubeborn, the question of that risk was discussed at a far higher level than me, and in terms of the loss of a Company asset. The risk was deemed to be acceptable.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#108 - 2015-03-05 23:23:44 UTC
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Your pardon, but I'm tubeborn, the question of that risk was discussed at a far higher level than me, and in terms of the loss of a Company asset. The risk was deemed to be acceptable.


I ... see. I'm sorry.

...

No, I'm sorry, I don't see. "Company asset?" Is that the way they talk about the children in the creche program?

But the State ... slavery ... it's not allowed. Surely, a corporate ward, and not corporate property?
Jennifer Starfall
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#109 - 2015-03-05 23:28:37 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
I'm not trivializing it, Starfall.

I'm saying that those people would have never even needed saving if this technology didn't exist. If there was no cloning, the Butcher would have died permanently in his first podding 6 years ago and no one would have ever had to suffer under him.

What I am saying is that the only way to accomplish any lasting good is to go after the source of the problem.

Just as you would have never had to have endured what you did if the corporation that did it had been shut down for its malpractices.


There's a lot of "ifs" in there. The entire chain of circumstances would be different.

If there were no capsuleers, I would never have existed.

Samira and Vincent, you're both my friends. This discussion has hit a bit close to home, and I'm sorry for my tone.

Jennifer Starfall

Fifth Seyllin Conference

Candi LeMew
Division 13
#110 - 2015-03-05 23:52:57 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Wow. So they died because you were bored and in need of a good time? There's strip clubs and other avenues to entertain a lifeless capsuleer, perhaps you should consider those options before throwing a few thousand lives into the fire....you know, since you supposedly "feel a bit sorry for those who died."
-Eran

Wow, that's a bit rude.

"lifeless capsuleer"s? What did your day consist of, Mr Mintor?

Me n' Boss woke up, had all these capital ships for breakfast. Then we went home to Atlas and did a bit of admin and celebrating with our corpmates, later Boss and me went to a station in Empire where she has a restaurant that she purchased the other day. She's part owner and gave the other half to her friend. Anyway, so yeah we spent like three hours at the stylists to get all cleaned up for our friend's birthday dinner.

I had the Lobster, Mr Mintor, then .... I even had some spiced wine.

After that I gave my friend some gifts, lots of really nice clothes. I spend a lot of time shopping for clothes, Mr Mintor, well sometimes. Boss has a pretty big Kredit card for such fun outings, so we do that quite a bit. But after that, Boss gave her friend his gifts from her and ... woah, Mr Mintor. Talk about having golden tastebuds, my Boss has 'em.

Then after that we left, without paying 'cause it was our restaurant, and went back to quarters where we enjoyed some birthday cake and all passed out a lil bit tipsy after all that wine, n' a mess of cream and cake everywhere.

I'm about to get to bed now, been talking with friends the past few hours and have gone way past my rest cycle.

So I look back on the day, Mr Mintor, just another day for us really. But mmm ... that Lobster ....

A shame the thousands of crew that were onboard breakfast will never get to taste it.

🍌

Remember... in Anoikis Bob Is Always Watching...

"I been kicked out of better homes than this" - Rick James

Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#111 - 2015-03-06 01:09:24 UTC
I can't imagine Capital ships make for a tasty or nutritional breakfast. I prefer pancakes.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#112 - 2015-03-06 04:02:57 UTC  |  Edited by: Samira Kernher
Lyn Farel wrote:
I think Captain Seriah's question was... purely rhetorical.

I know, though, that even being a two weeks old capsuleer as you say, I feel more echo in his words than in yours... Forgive me.

I have yet to understand this constant need for capsuleers to affirm themselvses through their single age in the capsule, or their killboard stats, as a necessary and sufficient condition for asserting their right.


It has nothing to do with capsuleers. It has everything to do with works. Faith without deeds is worthless. It is lip service.

There are many people who claim faith, who claim good, who claim that they will do many things. But until they actually go out and prove their faith and dedication with acts, it is hollow.

Which test reveals more of the soul, the test that a man will take to prove his faith, or the test that finds the man who believed his faith already proven? If you know this answer, then you also know which of these challenges bear the greatest penalty for failure.
- Missions 5:14
Eran Mintor
Metropolis Commercial Consortium
#113 - 2015-03-06 04:19:38 UTC
Candi LeMew wrote:
... that Lobster ....


I ate cold soup last night. Clearly you enjoy the finer things more than I do. I also owned a restaurant once but it burnt down about 3 years ago. I think it was arson.

-Eran
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#114 - 2015-03-06 04:51:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Samira Kernher wrote:
It has nothing to do with capsuleers. It has everything to do with works. Faith without deeds is worthless. It is lip service.

There are many people who claim faith, who claim good, who claim that they will do many things. But until they actually go out and prove their faith and dedication with acts, it is hollow.

So ... what's to be done?

It doesn't seem to be Captain Seriah's faith that is being tested.

Your pain's clear. Your anger is clear. Your path, though....

Respectfully, Lieutenant, you seem ... worryingly close to despair. That would be no use to anyone, yourself least of all.

Not all tests of faith are built only on deeds.

You fear that you are losing ground. Victory would certainly be more comforting, but what sort of test of faith is victory?

Whether the world is bright or dark, brightening or darkening, there's work to be done, Lieutenant.

It's mostly the same work, is it not?

There are people you cannot save. There are people you can.

Where is your glory, Praetorian Lieutenant? In the task, or in the reward?
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#115 - 2015-03-06 04:56:23 UTC
Eran Mintor wrote:
Candi LeMew wrote:
... that Lobster ....


I ate cold soup last night. Clearly you enjoy the finer things more than I do. I also owned a restaurant once but it burnt down about 3 years ago. I think it was arson.

-Eran


Cold soup?

At least go out and get a cup of coffee.

A proper cup of real coffee from real ground beans, not one of those synthetics or instants the Caldari forced onto me.

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Ragnar Severasse
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#116 - 2015-03-06 04:59:59 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
I can't imagine Capital ships make for a tasty or nutritional breakfast. I prefer pancakes.


I'm more of a waffle man myself.
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#117 - 2015-03-06 05:13:01 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Where is your glory, Praetorian Lieutenant? In the task, or in the reward?


The reward is the survival of millions, and their deaths the punishment for failure.

Glory is irrelevant.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#118 - 2015-03-06 05:28:32 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Pieter Tuulinen wrote:
Your pardon, but I'm tubeborn, the question of that risk was discussed at a far higher level than me, and in terms of the loss of a Company asset. The risk was deemed to be acceptable.


I ... see. I'm sorry.

...

No, I'm sorry, I don't see. "Company asset?" Is that the way they talk about the children in the creche program?

But the State ... slavery ... it's not allowed. Surely, a corporate ward, and not corporate property?

Oh, I signed the papers, but can you imagine one like me turning down a directive from up the chain?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#119 - 2015-03-06 05:36:17 UTC
Samira Kernher wrote:
The reward is the survival of millions, and their deaths the punishment for failure.

Glory is irrelevant.

In your faith, is true glory something of this world?

Isn't true glory what you're looking for? God's grace?

For that matter, is death even an enemy?

We are alive. They are not. That is unfair; they did not deserve to die, and many of us do.

If this is a fallen world, what is a holy warrior's place?

To win and rejoice only in winning, or to remain faithful, win or lose?
Samira Kernher
Cail Avetatu
#120 - 2015-03-06 05:40:13 UTC
To remain faithful.