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All skills lvl V for everyone. Problem solved.

And a Hello Kitty Kestrel so i can mine Veldspar for Chribba

If you are really going to remove learning implants, RECYCLE THEIR ICONS!

All combat implants with the same icon is a pain in the ass, use the icons of learning implants to make them more distinguishable like grouped by gunnery/navigation/shield/armor etc.

I respectfully disagree. Two implants in particular would be very effective: perception and intelligence. I think CCP would agree with me as they are giving those implants out for free. While +3s may be too costly for a new player, +2s and +1s are not. A new player typically is not expected to have access to the entire game. That said, I suggested making current plants cheaper. Cost is the real issue.

As for the OP bullets:
Point 1 response: Cost is the real issue, thus lower them.
Point 2 response: See attribute boosters (illegal in highsec) above.
Point 3 response: We need the isk/LP sink while attribute boosters would have nothing to do with LP.
Point 4 response: Boosters could take them to +5 levels. I see nothing wrong with +5/6/7 pirate implants.

As for the summary, not to be condescending, but it only makes sense in the "we all want to train faster" or the "we want something for nothing" sense. I would like to see the reverse happen: more attribute augmenters added, and the potential for future attribute boosts (mutators, black cyber implants, or Jovian gene manipulation anyone?).


At one point +5s were out of the question, worth a billion isk each. Most had +3s or +2s; a few had +4s, but those were costly too. Since the LP store came into existence, the cost of +5s came down. Then the price point was in line with highsec availability, especially for mission runners who get them at a discount (and oh the angst against mission runners). Now we have a “haves and havenots” case whereas before the perception was that almost no one had them.


Nullsec “havenots” have the strongest argument, having risk but not ready access to implants (lowsec, you have L5 agents). I can relate; I had a hard time getting my +3s and spares out there. Attribute boosters would reverse the situation, making the “havenots” the “haves.” Implemented correctly, this addresses the problem of cost and availability. This also adds content to the game, an incentive to go to nullsec, and rewards the risk of nullsec (esp. if the boosters were +2/4/6 in power).

Again, not to be condescending, but the OP flattens the game.


I would like to see new elements of the game that increase learning rates. This has happened before. The second set of learning skills were warmly received initially. Lower implant prices put +5s in the hands of many happy players. Remaps thrilled those with poor attributes and good attributes alike. Giving away learning skill attributes and giving back skill points was met with huge support. While removing learning implants seems like the next step, I see it as a cap on learning speeds, not a boost. Faster training will make all players happy, but I think this is more about costs and “haves and havenots” more than anything else. Attribute boosters, mutators, better learning implants, and other ways to increase learning speeds periodically released are what I want to see added to the game.

I mean compensation to those have them in hanger----you cannot just make their property vanish.

Boosters will also be 'bad' if they become a 'must' instead of 'optional'. that is to say, without side effect and everyone should use.

Lulz@ goon entitlements. Must be able to get podded at no cost. I want the good stuff, but not consequences.

Nothing is "must." No one is preventing you from undocking because you don't have implants in your head. Don't plug in what you can't afford to lose.

New players can get the cerebral accelerator (box editions are still out there). They also start with all the points from the old learning skills, a standard well balanced set of attributes, and the tutorials give away skills and even ships (at least tier one industrials). Cybernetics 1 gives you access to most of the learning implants. The prices on +1/2/3s have come way down over the years. Oh, plus two remaps.

Honestly, I think new players have it pretty good.

Mistakes will be made. This is not because of attributes, but because a player is new.

If you can't afford to lose two implants, I don't know how you can afford to lose a ship or replace a clone. Why no one here is using +2s or +3s is beyond me. If there isn't enough profit in nullsec, that is the real issue. Btw, not everyone in highsec has a full set of +5s. Some are smart and just use two at a time. Some just go for a +5 and a +4. Still others don't see the benefit of an extra few hours a month and stick with +3s. It is a choice everyone has to make.

I also keep hearing about barriers between fun, but I disagree. You can throttle attributes to train faster, balance them to perception and intelligence to give the best overall training times, or balance them out for all around decent training. It lets you choose what you want to train faster, lowering the barrier of fun. Granted, you have to know about skills, the game, and how to play it well. That goes for fittings, tanking, damage, trading, and anything else in Eve. If remaps were removed, chances are we would end up training at a slower, more general speed, hurting players top training speed. The barrier to fun would be increased. If implants were less costly, booster were introduced, and new implants were released, then the barrier to fun would be reduced.

How about combat implants just have a properly descriptive name instead of the bad scrabble-hand they have now?

Supported.

Do that and you have my vote for the next csm.