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[Proposal] Get rid of learning implants.
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Velin Dhal
Zeonic CG
#201 - 2011-12-17 09:01:44 UTC  |  Edited by: Velin Dhal
Krios Ahzek wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
Andski wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
If you want skill trees layed out for you then go play WoW or Rift.


"Go play this other game, EVE should be undocumented and bad"


EVE is in no way undocumented or bad. EVE is fairly unique and should stay that way. I'm sorry if people want the game to be "dumbed down" because they are incapable of understanding something more complex than a game that has your plan laid out for you from day 1.



Hey I've got a better idea let's remove the skill descriptions. That way EVE will be even more unique and less dumb than WOW. People should figure out what ''tactical logistics reconfiguration'' does by themselves.

No seriously graphical skill trees aren't dumb or WOW, they're just logical. Having to click on every single skill OR use a third party program/wiki to figure out the skill dependencies is a bit ********. I actually did just that but it would just make more sense for it to be included in the game.


Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#202 - 2011-12-17 09:13:24 UTC
Velin Dhal wrote:
Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game


idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Velin Dhal
Zeonic CG
#203 - 2011-12-17 17:33:45 UTC
Andski wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game


idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~



Funny, you haven't made a constructive comment here in at least 3 pages. All your doing is calling people out for using forum alts.

Anyway I'm not going to argue with some 16 year old. Go attempt to insult people elsewhere kid.
Alexander Jabez
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#204 - 2011-12-17 17:50:19 UTC
Andski wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game


idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~




And that is the problem right there in the proverbial nutshell. The "elitist jerk" is like that because he actually enjoys a game that challenges him and knows how to play correctly. You guys are whining about flying in +5's and losing them and oh no what if i die and get podded and lose all my implants. how is that fair???

New proposal, every time you get podded instead of getting a new noob ship (which from the sound of some of these posts many of you don't belong in anything else) everyone just gets a set of slaves or crystals.

and the fact that andski's only defense to ANY point against his proposal is to insult the poster in some way proves how care bear this idea is.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#205 - 2011-12-17 18:18:20 UTC
Velin Dhal wrote:
Andski wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game


idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~



Funny, you haven't made a constructive comment here in at least 3 pages. All your doing is calling people out for using forum alts.

Anyway I'm not going to argue with some 16 year old. Go attempt to insult people elsewhere kid.


you should really look at the nonsense you've been posting

calling the kettle black etc.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#206 - 2011-12-17 18:20:23 UTC
Alexander Jabez wrote:
Andski wrote:
Velin Dhal wrote:
Being lazy is not a valid reason to change the game


idgaf about this anymore, tbqfh, but it's clear that you're an elitist jerk and should get out~




And that is the problem right there in the proverbial nutshell. The "elitist jerk" is like that because he actually enjoys a game that challenges him and knows how to play correctly. You guys are whining about flying in +5's and losing them and oh no what if i die and get podded and lose all my implants. how is that fair???

New proposal, every time you get podded instead of getting a new noob ship (which from the sound of some of these posts many of you don't belong in anything else) everyone just gets a set of slaves or crystals.

and the fact that andski's only defense to ANY point against his proposal is to insult the poster in some way proves how care bear this idea is.


to get one thing out of the way here, you're an idiot.

moving on, it has nothing to do with his objection to the proposal (because he's an elitist jerk) but his whole "GO BACK TO WOW OR RIFT, NO SKILL TREES EVE IS UNIQUE (((" bullshit, because again, he's a 16 year old elitist who wants to feel ~special~ for playing a bad spaceship game ;p

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Regam Voss
State War Academy
Caldari State
#207 - 2011-12-17 18:20:55 UTC
Having +4's and a bil worth of missle hardwires never stopped me from going to null solo in a stealth bomber. Why? Because I knew I could get the ISK to get another set if I wanted to. Only reason to not go into null with +4's or +5's is cause you make the choice not to.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#208 - 2011-12-17 18:45:53 UTC  |  Edited by: Andski
Velin Dhal wrote:
Funny, you haven't made a constructive comment here in at least 3 pages. All your doing is calling people out for using forum alts.

Anyway I'm not going to argue with some 16 year old. Go attempt to insult people elsewhere kid.


adding to my previous reply, it's called discrediting the opponent and making their arguments lose their weight.

you posted some drivel in the old capital balancing thread about how supercap pilots shouldn't have to lose their ships to one stupid mistake (which happened before and after crucible) because their ships are worth tens of billions of ISK. why are they any special?

it's clear that you want the game made easier for older players, while the learning curve is made steeper, to the detriment of the new player. you're against any improvements that would benefit new players, make nullsec more accessible, and make skill training less of a chore.

were you opposed to the addition of the skill queue and removal of learning skills as well? ;p

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#209 - 2011-12-17 18:56:29 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr Champine
Lol, this is just getting pathetic, Andski is just reaching now. You either call someone a mean name or change the subject. Now you are on the topics of supers. Ugh, do us all a favor and drop corp and move up to high sec. Your idea ain't gonna fly, it sucks, but time to move on. Go make a new post, perhaps you can propose that every new player gets the choice of a carrier or a dread at the carrier creation screen? Maybe Mitts would vouch for that one. I find it hard to believe that goons give two sh*** about newer players all of a sudden. You could do the game more benefit by not scamming every knucklehead who thinks you guys are worth joining.

You guys simply want this so you can speed up your alt training. =P Commence the typical "you're a coward, posting alt omgwtfbbq moron carebear" insult tangent. If it helps I will send you some +5s for the holidays.

Actually scratch the carrier or dread proposal, you might lose one or two and then propose that players should have an unlimited number at their disposal.

The "Hammer" of CVA has spoken.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#210 - 2011-12-17 19:02:46 UTC
Amarr Champine wrote:
Lol, this is just getting pathetic, Andski is just reaching now. You either call someone a mean name or change the subject. Now you are on the topics of supers. Ugh, do us all a favor and drop corp and move up to high sec. Your idea ain't gonna fly, it sucks, but time to move on.


You're pretty goddamn stupid if you think that I'm ~scared~ of losing my pod or dying in nullsec. I don't even PvE - I just go out and kill things.

Amarr Champine wrote:
I find it hard to believe that goons give two sh*** about newer players all of a sudden.


it's a well-known fact that goonswarm has high SP requirements and only recruits 2003 players.

when you need to bring my alliance affiliation into this, it shows how desperate you are. I know, I should hide behind a forum alt!

Amarr Champine wrote:
You could do the game more benefit by not scamming every knucklehead who thinks you guys are worth joining.


most people are probably better off joining goonswarm than whatever worthless renter alliance your main is in.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#211 - 2011-12-17 19:08:59 UTC
I must be a psychic cause as Judge Dredd would say, "I'd knew you'd say that"

You know what buddy, we are all stupid, you are the special one. That is the same thing I tell my friends mentally ill brother mongo. You can be my special boy mongo, err I mean Andski.

New Andski proposal:

Remove forum alts from the boards!

My proposal, make people use their real names on the boards, perhaps our special boy wouldn't be so quick to toss around unclever insults. =P

Happy holidays!
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#212 - 2011-12-17 19:11:23 UTC
Amarr Champine wrote:
I must be a psychic cause as Judge Dredd would say, "I'd knew you'd say that"

You know what buddy, we are all stupid, you are the special one. That is the same thing I tell my friends mentally ill brother mongo. You can be my special boy mongo, err I mean Andski.

New Andski proposal:

Remove forum alts from the boards!

My proposal, make people use their real names on the boards, perhaps our special boy wouldn't be so quick to toss around unclever insults. =P

Happy holidays!


isn't it funny how you can't even come up with a good insult and fall back to playground nonsense?

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#213 - 2011-12-17 19:15:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr Champine
Just taking your lead mate, don't get salty about it now. I did wish you a happy holiday. =)

Though I do find it funny that the guy calling everyone morons and idiots since the first page is thumbing his nose at my "playground" insults. Its funny that your insults now seem to be a mirror of mine and everyone elses complaints against you.
Alexander Jabez
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#214 - 2011-12-17 19:20:54 UTC
Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.


This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.




and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.

Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#215 - 2011-12-17 19:24:39 UTC
Alexander Jabez wrote:
Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.


This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.




and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.



Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...


LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#216 - 2011-12-17 19:27:51 UTC
Alexander Jabez wrote:
Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.


except that your mouthbreathing lot wants it to be easier for older players to the detriment of the newer players - see all the bad posting from idiots with your alliance tag (who the **** are "The Dominion Empire") in the supercapital balancing thread.

Alexander Jabez wrote:
This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.

and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.


i'm not being "schooled" by some idiot who can't spell, sorry.

I've never played WoW, I have enough ISK that I don't give a crap about losing implants, and sorry, but you are wrong if you think that insulting someone doesn't discredit them when those insults have a basis in reality.

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#217 - 2011-12-17 19:29:44 UTC
Amarr Champine wrote:
Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...


LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.



I am so much more concise than that.

"get bent idiot"

Twitter: @EVEAndski

"It's easy to speak for the silent majority. They rarely object to what you put into their mouths."    - Abrazzar
Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#218 - 2011-12-17 19:44:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr Champine
Andski wrote:
Amarr Champine wrote:
Let me pretend to be Andski for a sec...


LAWLZNUBLOLGOGETBENTGOONSROCKSYOUAREMORONIDIOTSLOUDNOISESSSSSS.



I am so much more concise than that.

"get bent idiot"



Lol you really told me hotshot. Nothing worst then a guy in what equates to a videogame gang thinking what he says matters when because he is in it. You would be better posting from a forum alt, you simply discredit your toon and your alliance(not that they needed much help) Yeah, goons have numbers and are known, but they are not known as good pilots. So good job, you are the eve equivalent of the special olympics athletes. Fun to watch, but only because you know they are handicapped. Anyhow, if the isk don't matter to ya, then distribute it to the masses Robin Hood. There you go, problem solved. I will be in the NPC channels referring all new players to come to you for their +5 money. Will this work for you?

Lol @ your italics cupcake.
Amarr Champine
Doomheim
#219 - 2011-12-17 19:52:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Amarr Champine
Andski wrote:
Alexander Jabez wrote:
Lol the game should be easier for older players. The learning curve in this game is what we all love about it., and it is definatly not getting steeper. Just because you and your lot can't grasp the concept of using a jump clone properly doesn't warrant ccp dumbing down the game. "to the detriment of the new player" my @$$. The server constantly has almost double the amount of people it did a few years back.


except that your mouthbreathing lot wants it to be easier for older players to the detriment of the newer players - see all the bad posting from idiots with your alliance tag (who the **** are "The Dominion Empire") in the supercapital balancing thread.

Alexander Jabez wrote:
This game being geared toward the older player is how it should be. Its a reward for sticking with the game. Being able to afford and use expensive implants is one of the benefits. If you don't like the risk head back up to high sec or stfu and go back to WoW. :) They keep things simple for you and nothing bad will happen when you die. Apparently that really does suit you better.

and for the record insulting somebody doesn't discredit their point, just makes the fact that you have no intelligent response that much more apparent.


i'm not being "schooled" by some idiot who can't spell, sorry.

I've never played WoW, I have enough ISK that I don't give a crap about losing implants, and sorry, but you are wrong if you think that insulting someone doesn't discredit them when those insults have a basis in reality.



Haha thats funny, but seriously....

Who the **** are you? In or out of the game. Don't remember ever hearing about Andski the great, the feared pilot of eve, killer of rifters. Your alliance may be known, but you are not. This does not make you relevant or an expert on matters of the game. It makes you some guy who is now known to make bad proposals and will not back them up with reason. Good day.
Alexander Jabez
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#220 - 2011-12-17 19:56:18 UTC
lol I never used the term "schooled" and I don't think I misspelled anything. And who cares what somebody from my alliance posted on a previous topic or that you don't know us? Doesn't change the fact that, once again, you have no retort other than to say that I can't spell.