Assembly Hall

It's a curious question - why do learning implants exist? How can their continued existence be justified? You need them to train your hyperoptimized per/will skillplan as fast as possible, sure, but why should you need them to begin with?

Let me begin by highlighting the problems with learning implants:

• They discourage people from playing EVE. You're still paying your subscription, sure, but you're not playing the game. You don't want to jump to your empty/combat clone and lose a day of "optimal" training so you can have some fun, and then have to jump back to your training clone the next day.
• This affects nullsec (especially wormhole) players doubly so - losing your ship in a bubble is a surefire way to get podded. People in Empire still have a better chance of warping their pods out of harm's way, and thus have no qualms about running missions or otherwise ~flying in space~ with their implants, unless of course they are at war. That, however, is not our playstyle.
• They are seeded exclusively through LP stores rather than being made in-game entirely.
• Characters that need pirate faction implants for any reason (supercapital pilots with slave/nomad sets, freighter/JF pilots with nomads, etc.) are essentially stuck with +3s. But this isn't about pirate implants.

So what I'm proposing is removing learning implants entirely. There is just no need for them. Add 5 base points to every attribute. Remove learning bonuses from all other implants and set all base attributes to 22 points. It's trivial. Leave the Cerebral Accelerator implant as is - 25 "effective" base points for all attributes for the month isn't quite gamebreaking. A refund plan would not even need to be considered - those who had +5 sets will still have the same bonus, those who had +4 sets will have a better bonus, and it doesn't put anyone at a disadvantage.

It's a simple change, it doesn't throw anything out of balance, and it just makes sense. Why the hell not?

Supported.

Mumble leak:

(5:42:25 PM) Sverige Pahis: wow is that test guy ******** or trolling
(5:42:27 PM) Sverige Pahis: idgi

Learning implants are exactly like the old learning skills. They provide strong motivation to avoid playing the game, an effect which has a particularly strong effect on newbies.

Get rid of learning implants, add more combat implants.

Learning implants, Jumpclone timers and learning stats are just arbitrary barriers to fun.

Pointless and redundant.

GODDAMN LEARNING IMPLANTS

To hell with it, plus rep for everyone here!

Except faife, **** that guy.

Remove attributes, remove implants, remove remaps.

All skill learning multipliers can remain the same on skills, but the basic 1x skill is a fixed time. All other skills work as a multiple of the fixed time.

This doesn't remove customization, it simply removes ARBITRARY BARRIERS FOR FUN.

As the main implant importer and seller for TEST, I can do nothing but support this despite what it would mean for my business ventures.

I have first hand experience in not undocking which led me to not actually playing for my first six months since a friend gave me my first +5s. He thought he was doing me a favour but it nearly made me one less player instead.

This is just a nullbear whine. Bubbles are dangerous, you lose your implants. Working as intended.