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Buff the Corax
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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#1 - 2015-03-03 18:36:37 UTC
Seriously the Corax is in a miserable state, I wouldnt be surprised if its the least used destroyer of all.
It doesnt have near the fitting capacity to fit light missiles with a proper fit nor the speed to catch up with targets and brawl them with rockets. Also its locked to the worst damage type in game, kinetik. Of all the tier 2 destroyers its the least flexible and has basically nothing going for it except if youre a hardcore caldari roleplayer.
I suggest making the kinetik damage bonus a uniform one, specific damage bonuses are stupid anyway and giving it some cpu or powergrid on top of speed, basically make it a better ship all around.

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Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Meta Reloaded
#2 - 2015-03-03 18:43:43 UTC
There are no tiers in ships, only tears. Like yours. Git gud soon m8.




CCP pls buff Corax, it sucks

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#3 - 2015-03-03 18:46:23 UTC
Liam Inkuras wrote:
There are no tiers in ships, only tears. Like yours. Git gud soon m8.




CCP pls buff Corax, it sucks



ISD pls remove this post its triggering me

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Valkin Mordirc
#4 - 2015-03-03 18:48:54 UTC
+1 
#DeleteTheWeak
Kabark
Schilden
#5 - 2015-03-03 18:49:07 UTC
I haven't flown a destroyer in years so I can't weigh in much there. But the Algos looks a lot like Captain Nemos ship from 20,000 Leagues which is nice.
Duchess Starbuckington
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-03-03 18:52:28 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Liam Inkuras wrote:
There are no tiers in ships, only tears. Like yours. Git gud soon m8.




CCP pls buff Corax, it sucks



ISD pls remove this post its triggering me


As an omidemipolyubergendered othersamekin with a phobia of Isometric Symmetrical Dice who identifies as a truck, this triggered me.
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#7 - 2015-03-03 19:12:31 UTC
What's a Corax?

Eve Minions is recruiting.

This is the law of ship progression!

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Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#8 - 2015-03-03 20:20:30 UTC
+1

I've never seen a Corax in PVP, never heard of a Corax doctrine, never flown one myself but all the OP's statements about it make sense.

If you use rockets, you need to have speed.

If you don't have speed, and are supposed to have light missiles, you need powergrid/cpu for them.

Specific damage type bonuses are indeed dumb, what other ship has them? Any good ones? Not that I can think of.

Give Corax more fitting room OR more speed, and give it a general missile damage bonus.
Alena McJenkins
McJenkins' Saucy Shipwreckers LLC
#9 - 2015-03-04 00:35:51 UTC
I enjoy my Corax personally, though I don't have any room to talk in the PVP region.

I wouldn't mind seeing it made slightly more symmetrical, however.

Sauce.
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#10 - 2015-03-04 01:55:05 UTC
+1

I agree the corax needs a slight buff to something. It is quite difficult to design proper doctrine fits.
Hrothgar Nilsson
#11 - 2015-03-04 02:04:54 UTC
Corax rules for snowballs/fireworks. Cheap and it can fit 7 festival launchers.

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#12 - 2015-03-04 02:17:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
No real thoughts on the OP I Have not tried to fit a Corax in a long time and even then it was for a low skills new player that wanted to use Caldari only ships and thought the Corax was neat. So I am good with a buff/change if it happens and I am OK if it does not.

Reina Xyaer wrote:
Specific damage type bonuses are indeed dumb, what other ship has them? Any good ones? Not that I can think of.

Rattlesnake, Gila and Worm all come to mind quickly and I bet there are others if you look hard enough.

Hrothgar Nilsson wrote:
Corax rules for snowballs/fireworks. Cheap and it can fit 7 festival launchers.

Hardly a ringing endorsement for a ships capabilities but I like it anyway. Big smile
Hrothgar Nilsson
#13 - 2015-03-04 03:12:58 UTC
Fire the snowballs at a station. The sentry guns fire back, but don't hit you. With a Corax you can get the sentry guns to spam close to 1000 missiles per minute at you. Makes people stop and ask in local "what's going on?"

I've... seen things you people wouldn't believe...

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion...
Daichi Yamato
Jabbersnarks and Wonderglass
#14 - 2015-03-04 08:50:42 UTC
It could use some fitting love. trying to fit one for light missiles without max skills is a head ache indeed. The talwar is much easier...somehow.

Maybe make the kinetic damage bonus omni damage and/or bring back the talwars MWD sig bonus a tad.

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Ix Method
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-03-04 09:47:22 UTC
Buff it. Buff iiiiiiiiit.

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Baali Tekitsu
AQUILA INC
Verge of Collapse
#16 - 2015-03-04 12:37:46 UTC
CCP FOZZIE PLS RESPOND

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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union
Hatakani Trade Winds Combine
#17 - 2015-03-04 12:57:35 UTC
The only Corax fit i fly regularly is the one with the 7 Festival launchers. Everything else is just not competitive compared with every other destroyer.

+1
Anja Suorsa
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#18 - 2015-03-04 12:57:57 UTC
You're all bad. Corax fleet is beast mode.
Liam Inkuras
Furnace
Meta Reloaded
#19 - 2015-03-04 12:59:33 UTC
Anja Suorsa wrote:
You're all bad. Corax fleet is beast mode.

You're bad, not all of us fly them in blobs

I wear my goggles at night.

Any spelling/grammatical errors come complimentary with my typing on a phone
Jacob Holland
Weyland-Vulcan Industries
#20 - 2015-03-04 13:48:32 UTC
Baali Tekitsu wrote:
Also its locked to the worst damage type in game, kinetik.


Kinetic is not the "worst damage type in the game" and the Corax is not locked to it. Even the Drake is not locked to it.
If you're shooting at something with high Kinetic resists then switch to another damage type - on native shield resists you will deal more damage with EM missiles from a Drake than with Kinetic... and you have the choice to do so.
On native Armour resists the bonus makes Kinetic more powerful than Explosive but hey, if it's a T2 Galllente ship just switch out to Explosive and ignore the high Kinetic resists... You have that choice.

Reina Xyaer wrote:
I've never seen a Corax in PVP, never heard of a Corax doctrine, never flown one myself but all the OP's statements about it make sense.

If you've never seen the Corax in PvP and you've never heard of a Corax doctrine perhaps you should get out more?
80km of very good damage application with a substantial volley is only outdone in T1 at that hull-size by the Cormorant...
Most destroyer-centric Doctrines appear to be used by the same groups so it shouldn't take much work to determine where they're likely to be seen.

Reina Xyaer wrote:
If you use rockets, you need to have speed.

If you don't have speed, and are supposed to have light missiles, you need powergrid/cpu for them.


The Corax does have the PG/CPU for them...
At least in the same way as the Catalyst does 700DPS.

Reina Xyaer wrote:
Specific damage type bonuses are indeed dumb, what other ship has them? Any good ones? Not that I can think of.

Most Gallente and Amarr ships?
The Omen only has bonuses to EM/Thermal, the Thorax only has bonuses to Kinetic/Thermal... and unlike the Drake neither of those can switch out to Explosive if it turns out to be advantageous during the fight.
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