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No Class
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-03-03 03:17:42 UTC
So i'm looking for a new corp, but on the adverts i'm seeing almost all of them want my FULL API key. Is this safe? Can anything bad come of this?
Scipio Artelius
Weaponised Vegemite
Flying Dangerous
#2 - 2015-03-03 03:24:56 UTC
It's safe.

Just don't put anything personal or RL related in your eve mails and there's no problem.

If you have any concerns, ask the recruiter exactly what they are going to use it for.

Most of them will have no clue.

But they aren't a huge risk, just an inconvenience.
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#3 - 2015-03-03 03:26:34 UTC
Yes it's safe, however it's your information and you have the right to keep it private if you want to.

Moreover, if someone wants it with no expiry that is potentially suspect, there's little reason for anyone to want to continuously look into everything you're doing in game.

Personally I've always felt really dubious about people who want to be able to read your mails, as if it's totally normal to want to read other people's private communications.
Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#4 - 2015-03-03 03:27:13 UTC
If you haven't learnt to use the search function on the forum to answer this question, yes, bad things will come of giving people your API.
Zoe Athame
Don't Lose Your Way
#5 - 2015-03-03 03:27:35 UTC
API Keys only allow people to look, not interact.
Zealous Miner
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-03-03 03:30:08 UTC
A full API key allows them to look, but not touch.

They can see stuff like assets, EVE mails, characters, standings, contacts, skill queue, wallet, transactions, etc., etc. So, unless you have something to hide it is safe.

If at any time you want to stop them from seeing your information you can delete the key in the API Key Management tool. You can also see what information is made available to the people you give the key to when you're setting up the API.

Fedo. Fedo? Fedo!
No Class
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2015-03-03 03:33:10 UTC
Wow, thanks for the honest responses. I feel allot better about it now.
Storm Novah
Yada Industries
#8 - 2015-03-03 03:40:03 UTC
No Class wrote:
So i'm looking for a new corp, but on the adverts i'm seeing almost all of them want my FULL API key. Is this safe? Can anything bad come of this?


I agree with previous posters. Be careful of the information you share in game in any form.
As for the API requests I honestly don't see any reason that a 100% full API is necessary for any corp. IMO it's nobody's business what is in the wallet or assets and as such I never include that information in my submitted APIs for any corp. If a corp "requires" that info I take that as a red flag... while it's not always the case there are corps out there that are more interested in looking for victims than seeking new contributing members.

Other than that the API key does NOT give anyone access to your account login information and you can control every aspect of the API key and the information it gives. Anyways... good luck.
Claud Tiberius
#9 - 2015-03-03 03:47:50 UTC
Roll The reason Corps ask for full API is to mainly:

- Find out where you are.
- What you have been doing.
- What your abilities are.
- Tally corp statistics.
- Other(?).

So a great example of what this can do: If your corp is on deployment and your not helping out - the CEO can confirm this by looking at your API.



I like to say, It's a great tool for people who inspire to be an NSA equivalent.

Once upon a time the Golem had a Raven hull and it looked good. Then it transformed into a plataduck. The end.
Pok Nibin
Doomheim
#10 - 2015-03-03 06:01:03 UTC
Full APIs are unnecessary, and any CEO asking for one demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the game sufficient to call his or her competence into question. Should a corp ask it of you, take that in consideration and ask yourself if you really want to be part of a group if their leadership is so...questionable.

The right to free speech doesn't automatically carry with it the right to be taken seriously.
Loraine Gess
Confedeferate Union of Tax Legalists
#11 - 2015-03-03 06:34:09 UTC
Pok Nibin wrote:
Full APIs are unnecessary, and any CEO asking for one demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the game sufficient to call his or her competence into question. Should a corp ask it of you, take that in consideration and ask yourself if you really want to be part of a group if their leadership is so...questionable.




So apparently everyone better than you, including all the large nullsec organizations, are incompetent. Of course.
Nami Kumamato
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2015-03-03 09:31:11 UTC
Do deleted mails appear in the full API also ?

Fornicate The Constabulary !
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2015-03-03 09:34:17 UTC
our corp use our api keys to build cool tools on the corp website :)

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Serene Repose
#14 - 2015-03-03 10:21:00 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Full APIs are unnecessary, and any CEO asking for one demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the game sufficient to call his or her competence into question. Should a corp ask it of you, take that in consideration and ask yourself if you really want to be part of a group if their leadership is so...questionable.




So apparently everyone better than you, including all the large nullsec organizations, are incompetent. Of course.
"Better than..." maybe it's nappy time for you, hon. Cool

We must accommodate the idiocracy.
Thora Zhubilai
Bluenose Corporation
#15 - 2015-03-03 11:01:18 UTC
Safe or not....i do not give API key! ... to no one...Point! basta!
can i have API key from recruiters, directors or from CEO?...
no!

Hi all!
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-03-03 11:04:58 UTC
Thora Zhubilai wrote:
Safe or not....i do not give API key! ... to no one...Point! basta!
can i have API key from recruiters, directors or from CEO?...
no!


explains why you are and probably always will be in an npc corp. there is no danger submitting a api key its standard in any decent corp


Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Thora Zhubilai
Bluenose Corporation
#17 - 2015-03-03 11:08:48 UTC
Has nothing to do with safe or not...
can i have Full API from CEO?...no, sure not.

Trust me or trust me not...simple as that.

Hi all!
Lan Wang
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2015-03-03 11:17:31 UTC
well the fact that api's are used for all sorts of stuff including verifying who you are and also verifying you are actually in the corp before being able to use teamspeak and forums etc, not every situation where an api is requested is for spying on you or looking at your assets, i mean who really cares if you have something shiney in your hanger or you have 100bil isk.

in a game where people can steal and awox corps and players the directors are only looking out for every other player in the corp. i see no issue with this and good luck getting into a decent corp with that mindset

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Vimsy Vortis
Shoulda Checked Local
Break-A-Wish Foundation
#19 - 2015-03-03 11:19:32 UTC
Loraine Gess wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Full APIs are unnecessary, and any CEO asking for one demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the game sufficient to call his or her competence into question. Should a corp ask it of you, take that in consideration and ask yourself if you really want to be part of a group if their leadership is so...questionable.




So apparently everyone better than you, including all the large nullsec organizations, are incompetent. Of course.

If you think it's necessary to view someone's industry information and faction warfare stats when recruiting them then yes, you are incompetent.

70% of the information available via the API is totally irrelevant to a recruiter, but they still ask for all of those boxes to be ticked anyway. That is dumb, you shouldn't ask people for a bunch of information you don't want and don't intend to even look at. It just makes people suspicious of your intentions.
ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2015-03-03 11:35:05 UTC  |  Edited by: ChromeStriker
Vimsy Vortis wrote:
Loraine Gess wrote:
Pok Nibin wrote:
Full APIs are unnecessary, and any CEO asking for one demonstrates a lack of knowledge about the game sufficient to call his or her competence into question. Should a corp ask it of you, take that in consideration and ask yourself if you really want to be part of a group if their leadership is so...questionable.




So apparently everyone better than you, including all the large nullsec organizations, are incompetent. Of course.

If you think it's necessary to view someone's industry information and faction warfare stats when recruiting them then yes, you are incompetent.

70% of the information available via the API is totally irrelevant to a recruiter, but they still ask for all of those boxes to be ticked anyway. That is dumb, you shouldn't ask people for a bunch of information you don't want and don't intend to even look at. It just makes people suspicious of your intentions.


This is true... but its alot easier to ask for a full api then just the important stuff anyway. Its faster for us and faster for you (select all button).

Just think, you could be trying to join a corp/alliance will billions of isk worth of assets... Capital fleets, Ratting ships in hostile space, Sov infomation.... That corp is just trying to protect itself and if you feel hard done by because of that... look somewhere else.

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