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[Scylla] Change to the CSPA charge default.

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Syri Taneka
NOVA-CAINE
#41 - 2015-03-03 04:30:28 UTC
"Hell, it's about time."
Jon Hellguard
X-COM
#42 - 2015-03-03 07:10:33 UTC
CCP Lebowski wrote:
Afternoon Space Friends,
When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.


admit it, it did take you longer to write this post than implement the change - did it? :D
jokes aside - easy win. o7
drummendejef maaktnietuit
Ramm's RDI
Tactical Narcotics Team
#43 - 2015-03-03 09:43:53 UTC
Not a bad idea, never saw the real use of it anyway.
Sulindra
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#44 - 2015-03-03 12:27:08 UTC
How about you also make it so that those of us who set a change actually get the isk in our wallet as a fee for dealing with stupidity instead of it going into the ether or npc land.
Koebmand
Silverflames
#45 - 2015-03-03 13:39:07 UTC
If it is changed so the player gets the money, then it will only create spam.

50000 spambots will constantly spam every player in Eve every 2 minutes to hope to get some replies.
Annah Sun-Scape
Temet Nosce Ex Astra
#46 - 2015-03-03 16:43:53 UTC
That was antispam feature? lol Big smileBig smile
If you want to help us with spam then make chat checkbox with Attention OPTIONAL BLOCKING TRIAL ACCOUNTS IN LOCAL CHAT Attention

Easy way to force scammers to pay you Blink
Aleczi Volikov
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2015-03-04 11:18:33 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Yay!

Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)

Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.


+1 to the 'also'. CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted. The first would just be begging for lazy scams.
Hardcore Nightmare
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#48 - 2015-03-05 13:56:10 UTC
Didn't we wait for like...eight years for this? What?
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
#49 - 2015-03-08 10:36:54 UTC
The CSPA does need to have its limit raised. If you can't make it 1b or 100m, then 10m will do.

1m ISK is chicken feed.
Basil Pupkin
Republic Military School
#50 - 2015-03-09 02:38:45 UTC
I like the change (my CSPA is 0 and I ranted about it every time I had to pay it to talk with other people).

However, I am rather disturbed that some people I would rather choke are also liking it.

Also, everyone asking for CSPA to go into their wallets, and raising its limit, is going to be noted in my ledger of rancor.

Being teh freightergankbear automatically puts you below missionbear and minerbear in carebear hierarchy.

If you're about to make "this will make eve un-eve" argument, odds are you are defending some utterly horrible mechanics against a good change.
Alexis Nightwish
#51 - 2015-03-10 21:40:42 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
CCP Lebowski wrote:
Afternoon Space Friends,

Another quick post here to let you know of a change Five-0 have ready for testing on Singularity.

When Scylla is released, the default CSPA charge for newly created characters will default to 0 ISK instead of 2950 ISK.

For any existing characters that have their CSPA charge still at the default of 2950 ISK, the charge will also be changed to 0 ISK. Characters that have chosen to set their charge to any other value will be unaffected. All characters can still configure this setting as normal (via the Settings option in the Mail window).

In general, we want to be enabling social interaction in EVE rather than blocking it. The anti-spam value of this feature did not outweigh the downsides of requiring players (especially new players) to pay in order to talk to each other. Most experienced players already change their CSPA charge to 0, so we do not expect this change to negatively affect a large number of players.

As always we're looking for feedback (in this thread) and reports on any issues found (using the in-game bug reporting tool) with this change.

Thanks in advance!



Finally.

Spam hasn't been a problem for a long while.

Thanks for this change.

I'm curious if it hasn't been a problem because of, or despite the CSPA. I guess we'll find out! Big smile

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Lyric Masters
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#52 - 2015-04-01 16:53:17 UTC
Basil Pupkin wrote:
I like the change (my CSPA is 0 and I ranted about it every time I had to pay it to talk with other people).

However, I am rather disturbed that some people I would rather choke are also liking it.

Also, everyone asking for CSPA to go into their wallets, and raising its limit, is going to be noted in my ledger of rancor.


Why? It's a useless mechanic as it stands. If you don't want to speak to random pubbies, you can block all unknown characters.

If someone is dumb enough to pay 1B ISK to talk to me, that's their problem, not mine. Why should CCP get to take money out of the market if my loving and beautiful pirate personality can extract it?

It has absolutely zero use as a mechanic as it stands right now.
Jack Rinjakka
The Dragon's Hand
#53 - 2015-04-13 01:00:51 UTC
Morwen Lagann wrote:
Yay!

Now all we need the CSPA charge to actually go into people's wallets instead of into the void. (And remove the upper limit.)

Also: the CSPA charge should only be taken when the conversation is accepted, not when the request is made.


I agree with the accepted/requested part. I don't think the wallet thing should be implemented because the charge is more like a personally set tax. Also, people could easily exploit the ability to suck money out of people who are trying to talk to them.
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