Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Getting Corp's standing into high 8's for JC access is pain in ass with bunch of active members low in 1's or less. Yes I know there's EACS but cmon, do we really need this sort of standing mechanic? Perhaps we can lower JC requirement or something.

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To elaborate a bit:

We were discussing jumpclones in pubchat today, as we have on occassion. Lately we find ourselves bouncing between a few pvp spots, and the rank and file are getting a little more comfortable running around implanted and the like.

While a few of us have decently high standings with some outfits, those lower standings guys, or alts, drag us down for quite a few corporations.

So we started to ponder on solutions. Would it be reasonable to add an option to forfit standings? The agent->player relationship is similar to a business relationship. Its not unreasonable to think you might call up a client/contractor/patron and let them know you no longer needed their services.

An alternative we came up with was standings decay, although I am sure that would cause more rage from the community, but it does make a bit of logical sense, since agents do sort of "call you up" on occassion, asking for favors. It would be reasonable to assume that you need to maintain that acquaintance, or it might diminish, over time, as long distance/low interaction relationships would.

Of course the short answer could be "Estel Arador Corp" or similar, but some of us have years and years in the same organization, and even though something as trivial as an employment history may be minor to many, it means a bit to some :)

Agree that this is a ballache which pretty much exists for the sake of it.

Any sort of standings decay that forces mission running just to maintain the status quo is a horrible idea though because missions. Something as simple as a 1lp item in every store that resets standings/lp (from positive) for that corp would make the world a better place.

I'm the corpmate, and to clarify, this would just be a role based toggle whether or not the corp member gets to participate in corp standings. If not, they don't drag standings down and don't benefit from them.

While I agree that they are a personal thing, in the world of EVE and Corporations, where you are "employed" by your corporation, it makes perfect sense that they(the employer) would choose their employees with the best corporate or government contacts to do their business dealings, call in favors, affect legislation, whatsohaveyou.

This is quite good tbh. Standings giving rewards (free clones, less tax, etc.) rather than being hard requirements would make this game a lot more pleasant.


You're entirely correct but for all it'd be a tiny, togglable option appointing 'Representatives to the NPCs' or whatever is basically shoehorning RP into every corp.

While I wouldn't goto war over it, from here at least Eve being a game where you can completely ignore the lore, completely go mental with the RP or anything in between is really valuable. Standings are either a mechanical value or a vivid representation of your devotion to the Empress, depending on your outlook. That's kinda cool.

First off an admissions, I am guilty of scanning this topic and not really reading it. All of my characters have jump clones so this would not affect me in any way. However I do find many new players in a bind for JC standing so it caught my attention from that perspective.

The current system us insane and it needs to be changed.
The basic idea in the OP has me wondering what the real motives are behind this idea. Those with character like this one that have +10 standing to several corps why would we ever think of abandoning our standings? If we want them low we go shoot people, either that or abandoning them does nothing to help the JC issue. So all I can figure is
1. this is get out of jail free card for those who want to get their standings back up and that would be bad.
2. the OP did not look past the JC issues to see how this idea would affect the game as a whole.

I do have one thought to put onto the debate.
When you train Infomorph Psychology it unlocks access to a Concord or perhaps faction station that would allow you to buy your JC.
I am concerned about a pay to win possibility here, but I think this could be workable.

Problem solver: You prohibit members to run missions for a specific corp. You have 1 member alone who runs (accept missions) for that corp and who gets the standing to 8+. It should be a fairly unpopular corp (one with many Distro/Mining agents and next to no L4 security agents) so that the risk of other people having standing with it is lowered. Whoever violates that and ruins the standing is then either required to run missions for that corp until he gets to 8+ as well or leave your corp or provide a Rorqual. If people are too learning-resistant and continue ruining your corp's life, they have to be punished hard.

Providing a Rorqual (or Titan if you have) for JCs in general is also a way to circumvent the 8.0 standing requirement and makes you completely independent from NPCs.

How about the idea of using LP to buy a one time instal jump clone at station? they may be in not so perfect standing with a player/corp, but to "cash in a favor" and spend some LP, a deal could be reached.

Haven't given any real though as to what may be a fair cost for doing so, but I think it should be 150k or more. something that would require some working for. Some work to get one clone once, but to get as many as you want at any of that NPC corps stations should take the full work of getting the high lvl standings.

(for English-speakers: Blow powdered sugar in the ass)