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Rise's job queue: ECM
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Reina Xyaer
Tha Lench Mob
#41 - 2015-03-03 00:38:02 UTC
lmmortalist wrote:
Hopelesshobo wrote:

Have you ever flown an ECM boat? Because being able to permajam everything is a joke in itself. This is especially true if the entire fleet is using ECCM. When that happens you feel like a completely useless ship. If you wanted to complain about something why not complain how damps and tracking disruptors perma damp/disrupt you. Personally I find it hilarious when people bring up that solo pvp card because Eve is not meant to be played alone, and a Pilgrim is a much better solo pvp platform then the Falcon ever could be with the exception of going up against missile boats.


-For unbonused hulls the drone control range is 60km, if the ECM ship is closer than that then he has screwed up.
-ECCM is a joke. Seriously, try doing the math. I have.
-FOF missiles are broken as well. Try firing them and see what happens (hint: a bug CCP haven't gotten around to fixing).
-Burning towards the jammer works as far as there are no scrams/webs on you. Enough said.

Yes I have flown an ecm boat. Now let me ask you, have you ever been jammed? A while ago i witnessed a player soloing in a carrier and a set of five hornet ec-300's landed a cycle of jams on him on average every 30-45 seconds. The fight lasted for five minutes and during that time he didn't have a single minute period without ecm on him. Also I cant remember the last time I had a fight (either solo or small gang) where I was only partially jammed. Its always either permajammed or no more than a yellow box on you from the ECM ship as long as the miracle of him fleeing the field isn't happening.

There is no reason to complain about damps or td's because they aren't broken as ****.

Also, who the hell do you think you are telling people how eve is meant to be played? Eve pvp was never meant to be done with ECM. See? I can do that too.



I've seen EC-300s do nothing to a cruiser, so please don't tell me that they have ever once jammed a carrier. I'm going to go test this soon, but until I see it, I'm going to call you a liar.
Lugh Crow-Slave
#42 - 2015-03-03 01:06:17 UTC
Reina Xyaer wrote:
lmmortalist wrote:
Hopelesshobo wrote:

Have you ever flown an ECM boat? Because being able to permajam everything is a joke in itself. This is especially true if the entire fleet is using ECCM. When that happens you feel like a completely useless ship. If you wanted to complain about something why not complain how damps and tracking disruptors perma damp/disrupt you. Personally I find it hilarious when people bring up that solo pvp card because Eve is not meant to be played alone, and a Pilgrim is a much better solo pvp platform then the Falcon ever could be with the exception of going up against missile boats.


-For unbonused hulls the drone control range is 60km, if the ECM ship is closer than that then he has screwed up.
-ECCM is a joke. Seriously, try doing the math. I have.
-FOF missiles are broken as well. Try firing them and see what happens (hint: a bug CCP haven't gotten around to fixing).
-Burning towards the jammer works as far as there are no scrams/webs on you. Enough said.

Yes I have flown an ecm boat. Now let me ask you, have you ever been jammed? A while ago i witnessed a player soloing in a carrier and a set of five hornet ec-300's landed a cycle of jams on him on average every 30-45 seconds. The fight lasted for five minutes and during that time he didn't have a single minute period without ecm on him. Also I cant remember the last time I had a fight (either solo or small gang) where I was only partially jammed. Its always either permajammed or no more than a yellow box on you from the ECM ship as long as the miracle of him fleeing the field isn't happening.

There is no reason to complain about damps or td's because they aren't broken as ****.

Also, who the hell do you think you are telling people how eve is meant to be played? Eve pvp was never meant to be done with ECM. See? I can do that too.



I've seen EC-300s do nothing to a cruiser, so please don't tell me that they have ever once jammed a carrier. I'm going to go test this soon, but until I see it, I'm going to call you a liar.


so am I but on the part where you could tell when the jams were landing since you can't see when a jam lands from a drone unless you are the one being jammed and both on paper and in practice ECCM is very effective particularly on T2 ships

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