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got scammed out of plex :(

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Cara Forelli
State War Academy
Caldari State
#21 - 2015-02-27 00:43:51 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.

CCP is not the enemy. If you want revenge, enact it in game. Otherwise....lesson learned.

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Titan's Lament
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2015-02-27 00:56:55 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.



GMs are there to preserve the integrity of the sandbox, not to protect you from doing stupid things.

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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#23 - 2015-02-27 01:17:26 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.



GMs are there to preserve the integrity of the sandbox, not to protect you from doing stupid things.


And yet they are well aware of such loopholes,and have 0 tolerance towards fixing them,since they dont incur any real cash value losses.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#24 - 2015-02-27 01:23:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Sariah
It isnt a loop hole, this game is a sandbox, that means there are very few things you cant do, scamming is one of those things you can do if you wish, and if you want to blow real money to make in game money, thus becoming appart of the mechanic, and then get scammed, it is YOUR fault, read about EVE man, it is about doing almost anything you can possibly think of, it adds a layer of risk and depth to the game, if you want to it to be different then go play a different game, or stop complaining, do you know how many people get scammed for hundreds of times what you lost? They dont come complaining, they take it on the chin and move on adn guess what, they dont get scammed because they learned from there lesson.

It is a well known fact that scamming is a big thing in EVE, stop acting naive.

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2015-02-27 01:29:43 UTC
Dont see it stating on their front page that real cash losses are part of it-i suggest read some law governing this-since every corporation be it trading gambling,virtual-that accepts cash for services states,the risks of real money losses,dont see anyway ccp getting such exception,it might be a sandbox but they have full control over it,and thus making 0 effort to do right,isnt part of game i signed up for.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#26 - 2015-02-27 01:38:01 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Dont see it stating on their front page that real cash losses are part of it-i suggest read some law governing this-since every corporation be it trading gambling,virtual-that accepts cash for services states,the risks of real money losses,dont see anyway ccp getting such exception,it might be a sandbox but they have full control over it,and thus making 0 effort to do right,isnt part of game i signed up for.


Dude.. You just proved yourself an idiot.. With those groups you stated, you pay cash for an experience, so, you payed real life cash to CCP to receive exactly that, an experience, just cause you didn't approve of that, doesnt mean it is something to complain about, bloody hell, grow up, get over it, you are the one that messed up, if i got to a Casino and put $500 on Red, and then loose it, i cant demand a refund because i didnt like that experience, live, grow, learn, stop complaining, YOU messed up, YOU lost the ISK, YOU caused this to happen, welcome to the Sandbox, if you dont like it, then dont let it happen again, wallah, look at that, i solved the case Wattson.

It isnt hard to understand, watch a trailer, "This is EVE and anything is possible" ANYTHING!

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
Orlacc
#27 - 2015-02-27 01:47:05 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.



GMs are there to preserve the integrity of the sandbox, not to protect you from doing stupid things.


And yet they are well aware of such loopholes,and have 0 tolerance towards fixing them,since they dont incur any real cash value losses.



They don't incur any monetary loss if your Battleship gets blown up because you screwed up either. No loopholes. Quite honestly people in MMOs have been ripping off marks using trade windows long before EVE ever existed. The only one you should be mad at is yourself.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."
Gregor Parud
Imperial Academy
#28 - 2015-02-27 01:50:35 UTC
Why should a GM rectify a mistake you yourself made because you didn't pay enough attention?
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#29 - 2015-02-27 02:59:39 UTC
Gregor Parud wrote:
Why should a GM rectify a mistake you yourself made because you didn't pay enough attention?

Because they allow it, and encourage it themselves.You can save the crap game being sandbox, since developers are fully aware ofall the bugs and loopholes to encourage such activity.Since I lost an item that was paid in real cash, I didnt pay for experience but for actual game item, which due to exploits existing was lost.and saying gms cant do anything is making fools of yourself since they can control game in any way they want, there are loogs for each action made date stamped, and every user can be checked for every move they made.only rules are made up only those that favor ccp, and 0 tolerance towards customers are implemented to resolve such issues/or fix them.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#30 - 2015-02-27 03:09:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Eli Sariah
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Gregor Parud wrote:
Why should a GM rectify a mistake you yourself made because you didn't pay enough attention?

Because they allow it, and encourage it themselves.You can save the crap game being sandbox, since developers are fully aware ofall the bugs and loopholes to encourage such activity.Since I lost an item that was paid in real cash, I didnt pay for experience but for actual game item, which due to exploits existing was lost.and saying gms cant do anything is making fools of yourself since they can control game in any way they want, there are loogs for each action made date stamped, and every user can be checked for every move they made.only rules are made up only those that favor ccp, and 0 tolerance towards customers are implemented to resolve such issues/or fix them.


I am going to say this slow and clear so you can get it through your obviously thick head, maybe you were made in an Amarrian ship factory..

IT WAS YOUR FAULT, YOU MADE THE MISTAKE, YOU GOT YOURSELF SCAMMED, THESE ARE NOT LOOP HOLES AND BUGS, THIS IS A LEGITIMATE EVE CAREER, JUST BECAUSE YOU WERE TO BLIND TO SEE IT, DOESN'T MEAN THEY MUST FIX IT FOR YOU, AND NO, IT IS A GAME, THERE FOR EVERYTHING YOU BUY FOR IT FOR WITHIN IT, ARE APART OF THE EXPERIENCE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT THEN GO.

we have all been scammed, at one point, CCP doesn't have favored customers, look at Cribba, he lost a massive amount of ISK (More then you will ever see) and CCP didn't refund him, stop complaining about something YOU did, you wouldn't have been scammed if you just quick sold it, or held onto it and make some ISK like a normal player, now grow up, and shut up, if you want a game company to hold you hand like a small child you are making yourself out to be, then go play some WoW

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#31 - 2015-02-27 03:17:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Dont see it stating on their front page that real cash losses are part of it-i suggest read some law governing this-since every corporation be it trading gambling,virtual-that accepts cash for services states,the risks of real money losses,dont see anyway ccp getting such exception,it might be a sandbox but they have full control over it,and thus making 0 effort to do right,isnt part of game i signed up for.



If real money or PLEX in the redeeming system are stolen via a scam, CCP will permaban the thief involved.

Here, digital objects were stolen. That's 100% OK.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#32 - 2015-02-27 03:22:59 UTC  |  Edited by: pinkiaiiiLT pinky
So because eve doesnt like people selling isk/items in real world its bad because it hurts them, biut untill you bought stuff of them they are more then happy to take your real cash-and allow ppl to get scewed ingame since it doesnt affect them.as far as favourite players go, its isk to them thats being lost, not cash out of their pockets.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#33 - 2015-02-27 03:28:55 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
So because eve doesnt like people selling isk/items in real world its bad because it hurts them, bit untill you but stuff of them they are more then happy to take your real cash-and allow ppl to get scewed ingame since it doesnt affect them.as far as favourite players go, its isk and cash to them thats being lost, not cash out of their pockets.



Firstly, learn to spell and check what you write before you hit enter, you write worse then my god daughter..

Secondally, they didn't let you get scammed, YOU let that happen, cause your an idiot, and you keep proving that by going on like an idiot, dude, YOU are the reason YOU got scammed, you proved that plain and simple in your post, CCP isnt here to hold you hand, it is a normal mechanic of the game, a common one, grow up man, seriously, it is getting pathetic,just learn to be a man and grow up, learn from your mistakes, just live an let die for Christs sake

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
Ay Terona
Doomheim
#34 - 2015-02-27 03:30:17 UTC
If this bothered you that much, quit playing the game.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#35 - 2015-02-27 03:32:33 UTC
Ay Terona wrote:
If this bothered you that much, quit playing the game.


This^

All day long.

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#36 - 2015-02-27 03:32:52 UTC
Typing on the tablet, thats why I have to correct it.the rest I see is, exploit was used on me, easy fix really, but not giving crap and making it right is crime to say the least.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#37 - 2015-02-27 03:39:03 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
Typing on the tablet, thats why I have to correct it.the rest I see is, exploit was used on me, easy fix really, but not giving crap and making it right is crime to say the least.


Dude.. Seriously, this is getting old, if you have played this game, then you know scamming is a part of EVE, you have probably read about half of it, unless you lived under a rock or in a wormhole you would have been exposed to it, this is a Sandbox, anything is allowed, you got scammed cause YOU messed up, okay? I know it sucks but take it like a man and a lesson, and shut up about it, CCP isnt going to refund you, because you admitted to making a mistake, just seriously dude, quit it, if you dont like the mechanics go play Wow. and it isnt a crime so shut up with that noise, watch the EVE trailers, one of them is litterally about one guy who stole everything from thousands of players, if that didnt give you a hint, get up, walk to the wall, and head butt it until your brain kicks back in, seriously man, YOU did this to yourself

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#38 - 2015-02-27 03:47:18 UTC
I'll let ccp decide on this matter, since it seems customer to them is a 0 priority.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#39 - 2015-02-27 03:52:19 UTC
Please look at the following: http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/eve-reimbursement-policy/


1/3, Reimbursement will only be granted if a loss is attributable to a bug or server error.

8. SCAMMING

- Assets lost to a scam may only be reimbursed if the scammer used a verified bug to hide his intentions to scam. Generally in-game scams are allowed and considered a valid tactic as long as they are done via normal game mechanics.
- Players are cautioned to use their best judgment when entering into agreements with other players. To avoid getting scammed, please read our article on scamming.

And read this too: http://community.eveonline.com/support/knowledge-base/article.aspx?articleId=34

They warn everyone in advance man, your fault, have fun being a target of scammers from now on, you literally just put a target on your head

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#40 - 2015-02-27 03:59:30 UTC
Werified bug thx for that, will be usefull.targets dont care, got nothing to lose.