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got scammed out of plex :(

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pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2015-02-26 23:03:36 UTC
anyway short story wanted to sell plex,as hadnt enough isk to put it on the market order,person agreed to buy and last second removed one 0 from total amount resulting in over 700mill loss.

Basically submitted ticket-but looking for answer will mods be able to reverse the trade,or am i Fckd both ways here.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#2 - 2015-02-26 23:12:41 UTC
Ouch.. Unfortunatly man i am pretty sure that is classified as legal scamming, i am sure you have seen the contracts in Jita? you never click accept till you have read it carefully, and dont ever do it via trade as that is what i am guessing you did, but generally speaking, you are out 700mil ISK, sorry man, could be worse, on my second day i found 5 PLEX for 80mil each, so yeah.. He messed up and i took advantage of it, it is legal

P.S. That really sucks though man :(

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

Tsukino Stareine
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2015-02-26 23:15:05 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
anyway short story wanted to sell plex,as hadnt enough isk to put it on the market order,person agreed to buy and last second removed one 0 from total amount resulting in over 700mill loss.

Basically submitted ticket-but looking for answer will mods be able to reverse the trade,or am i Fckd both ways here.


you won't get anything back from CCP.

This was completely your own fault.
pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2015-02-26 23:19:59 UTC
well ive seen a lot of these scam usually people would put in 800 thousand or so,but to remove 0 as it took me couple minutes to process after doing trade since i had 3 mill in acount and seen 83 i figured looks ok,until bought a ship to see 20 mill drop.
now if fairly new to the game and seen many scam that managed to avoid but this was pure joke on me,im not the best at maths when it comes having 9 zeros on screen but this one hurt me pretty bad,since it was all i had.

if mods decide it was fair trade and let other party go,then i guess it says it all.
Paranoid Loyd
#5 - 2015-02-26 23:23:03 UTC
Never use the trade window unless you are trading between your own characters. Contracts should be used for doing business with people you don't know.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#6 - 2015-02-26 23:26:10 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Never use the trade window unless you are trading between your own characters. Contracts should be used for doing business with people you don't know.


Couldnt have said that better, but yeah, sorry pinkiaiiiLT pinky, should aways double check, and it isnt like your new and they ripped you off, your at least 7 months old, and if you need ISK ASAP just quick sell it on the market, easy done, better luck next time

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

handige harrie
Vereenigde Handels Compagnie
#7 - 2015-02-26 23:26:52 UTC
Paranoid Loyd wrote:
Never use the trade window unless you are trading between your own characters. Contracts should be used for doing business with people you don't know.


This,

private contracts are your friend in cases like this, as you can see what you get and give before pushing the button.

Baddest poster ever

ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2015-02-26 23:31:04 UTC
Don't feel bad OP. Most players fall victim to some kind of scam early in their career in EVE. Yeah, it sucks... but that is part of what makes it so awesome here. You REALLY have to pay attention to what you are doing.

And not be drunk while doing money related stuff. Shocked
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#9 - 2015-02-26 23:33:13 UTC
Quote:
And not be drunk while doing money related stuff. Shocked


Oh.. That must be where i am going wrong..

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2015-02-26 23:44:47 UTC
i wouldnt feel bad if it wasnt item bought for real cash,i know the drill of selling on the market,but as said 3 mill in account couldnt afford to make contract,and isk needed was enough to buy plex back after a day or two,of exploring sites.

and even thou it shows im 7 months old im just back to the game after half year being off before played 3 months.

But if its seen as normal game action where admins wont even bother to reverse such transfer as its black on white scam,then i guess its boohoo on me.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#11 - 2015-02-26 23:48:19 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
i wouldnt feel bad if it wasnt item bought for real cash,i know the drill of selling on the market,but as said 3 mill in account couldnt afford to make contract,and isk needed was enough to buy plex back after a day or two,of exploring sites.

and even thou it shows im 7 months old im just back to the game after half year being off before played 3 months.

But if its seen as normal game action where admins wont even bother to reverse such transfer as its black on white scam,then i guess its boohoo on me.


You do know EVE Online encourages scammers on some level right? You can whatever you want, some people, oddly enough, like scamming, and like i siad before, you could have quick sold it, and made like 10mil ISK less..

And if you dont want to loose RL money, then well.. Dont spend it.. It always has some margin of going wrong, at least now you know to look out for that type of scam and it wont happen again, bad guy makes ISK, you get a lesson, everyone is happy..

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2015-02-26 23:56:10 UTC  |  Edited by: pinkiaiiiLT pinky
the way i see it,if you lose isk to some bug-then its no ones fault-just game error.you try to sell isk or whatever for real cash then its ban-since ccp losses.and if you get scammed you lose scammer wins ccp has your $ anyway and no one cares.

its not like i was trying to gain something out of the trade, price was 800mill,just enough for me to get ship and fits to be back on the field-since as someone said i could sold it for about 20 mill less,but that would bring me even down since return needed back would been almost 100mill which is not days work in eve.
Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2015-02-27 00:02:16 UTC
Never ever ever ever ever ever ever trade with someone you don't completely trust via the trade window!

Always use contracts.

Then read the contracts over. Slowly. Several times. Before accepting them.
Orlacc
#14 - 2015-02-27 00:03:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Orlacc
In nine years I have never used the trade window. There are safer ways.


You were in a hurry and tried to bypass the market fee. Oh well.

"Measure Twice, Cut Once."

Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#15 - 2015-02-27 00:03:28 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
the way i see it,if you lose isk to some bug-then its no ones fault-just game error.you try to sell isk or whatever for real cash then its ban-since ccp losses.and if you get scammed you lose scammer wins ccp has your $ anyway and no one cares.

its not like i was trying to gain something out of the trade, price was 800mill,just enough for me to get ship and fits to be back on the field-since as someone said i could sold it for about 20 mill less,but that would bring me even down since return needed back would been almost 100mill which is not days work in eve.


You are correct on the bug yes, the second part about that is incorrect, it isnt that CCP doesnt care, it is that if you ge scammed that in generally your fault, you made choices that casued that, YOU, not CCP.

And that sombody was me, and it is a 20mil Loss, i am looking now, it is 6mil, a lot better then 800mil some would say, just be careful next time, double check everything, everyone gets caught on 1 major scam, even i have, but i kinda expected it, you now, being EVE and all, also, just quick sell if your bad with numbers or whatever, it mostly unscammable (For christ sakes check the bloody amount first, i have made that mistake once) and wahla, no tears, no mess, no trouble, easy done

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2015-02-27 00:10:55 UTC
people say that constaly here dont fly what you cant afford etc.

the amount of times ive been killed,just by random you didnt check that,went to the wrong place etc.

other day flew to close to some station since my pc laggs a lot,got a freeze,minute later seen my pod,and 20mill isk floating in space.

no one even bothered to kill me in low sec,asking for 10 minutes people around,was my biggest lol ever,once you dont want to die there's something waiting to kill you any second but when your floating in egg and asking people to pod you,they think you got something going on Roll there wasn't a day where i wouldn't learn a lesson without being killed or podded in some way since i returned-but this last thing tops it all.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#17 - 2015-02-27 00:12:51 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
people say that constaly here dont fly what you cant afford etc.

the amount of times ive been killed,just by random you didnt check that,went to the wrong place etc.

other day flew to close to some station since my pc laggs a lot,got a freeze,minute later seen my pod,and 20mill isk floating in space.

no one even bothered to kill me in low sec,asking for 10 minutes people around,was my biggest lol ever,once you dont want to die there's something waiting to kill you any second but when your floating in egg and asking people to pod you,they think you got something going on Roll there wasn't a day where i wouldn't learn a lesson without being killed or podded in some way since i returned-but this last thing tops it all.


HAHA! That is gold man, haha! Probably thought you were bait or something, happens a lot i have heard, better luck next time man

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

Paranoid Loyd
#18 - 2015-02-27 00:18:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Paranoid Loyd
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
people say that constaly here dont fly what you cant afford etc.

the amount of times ive been killed,just by random you didnt check that,went to the wrong place etc.

other day flew to close to some station since my pc laggs a lot,got a freeze,minute later seen my pod,and 20mill isk floating in space.

no one even bothered to kill me in low sec,asking for 10 minutes people around,was my biggest lol ever,once you dont want to die there's something waiting to kill you any second but when your floating in egg and asking people to pod you,they think you got something going on Roll there wasn't a day where i wouldn't learn a lesson without being killed or podded in some way since i returned-but this last thing tops it all.

You warped to a moon and were killed by a POS, don't warp to moons if you are not in highsec, if you must warp to a moon, warp to 100km instead of 0.

Also if no one will pod you, you can self destruct.

"There is only one authority in this game, and that my friend is violence. The supreme authority upon which all other authority is derived." ISD Max Trix

Fix the Prospect!

pinkiaiiiLT pinky
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2015-02-27 00:33:10 UTC
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.
Eli Sariah
Doomheim
#20 - 2015-02-27 00:42:18 UTC
pinkiaiiiLT pinky wrote:
basically been shown middle finger by ccp gm,since its games core scamming and any other activity to rip off players.


Stop saying rip off and blaming it on others man, not a good way to approach this game, take it on the chin, and get over it, YOU ultimately let it happen, not CCP

"A manu dei e tet rimon" - I am the devoted hand of the divine God.

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