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myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#1 - 2011-12-02 11:41:11 UTC
Anyone have any hard numbers on what sanctums and havens are bringing in these days since the nerf. Actual number of million each one has in bounties?

im a drone region guy, so id like to know if its time to make a move
thanks

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Whyumadtho
Doomheim
#2 - 2011-12-02 14:57:56 UTC
I went from 15 mil average ticks to 18 mil average ticks.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#3 - 2011-12-02 15:00:30 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Anyone have any hard numbers on what sanctums and havens are bringing in these days since the nerf. Actual number of million each one has in bounties?

im a drone region guy, so id like to know if its time to make a move
thanks


Depends on what ship you use. With Machariel I get 22-26 mil ticks in havens and sanctums.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#4 - 2011-12-02 22:14:48 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
myFORUMalt alts wrote:
Anyone have any hard numbers on what sanctums and havens are bringing in these days since the nerf. Actual number of million each one has in bounties?

im a drone region guy, so id like to know if its time to make a move
thanks


Depends on what ship you use. With Machariel I get 22-26 mil ticks in havens and sanctums.



I dont want your tick totals, the anom value. whats the value if you just did one sanctum, or one haven.

Also, how do you like the mach. Im cross training my carrier pilot to get into a mach.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Revii Lagoon
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2011-12-02 22:36:18 UTC
I got approximately 30 million total from the last sanctum I did, it was the ring one not the station.
ma perke
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2012-01-05 11:59:40 UTC
I make 26-30MIsk per tick doing forsaken hubs with mackariel. How much is the sanctum/haven after patch? I have no access to those 0.0 systems yet. Do you get escalations from them?
Goose99
#7 - 2012-01-05 17:03:43 UTC
35 - 45 mil tick, properly fit and skilled Thanny.
Raven Ether
Doomheim
#8 - 2012-01-05 21:55:47 UTC
Goose99 wrote:
35 - 45 mil tick, properly fit and skilled Thanny.


This reminded me of that ratting Nyx.


It smelled well as it burned.
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2012-01-05 22:02:33 UTC
What is this 'tick' that ppl refer to?

Is it a repetitive twitch or movement? Is it a blood sucking parasite? Is it a unit of time? Is it a unit of effort or other resource expenditure?

/me wonders

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#10 - 2012-01-05 23:49:38 UTC
'Tis amount of bounty paid in a 20 minute period. Ergo, the more BS's you can blat within that period the greater the income.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Substantia Nigra
Polaris Rising
Goonswarm Federation
#11 - 2012-01-06 00:04:08 UTC
Thanks.

So is the 'tick' concept habitually misused like that other often inflated beastie ... isk-per-hour?

Like "Once I am in the site and got my ship locked-on it takes me 30s to kill a 1.6M bounty BS, therefore I run exploration sites at 64M/tick".

I guess I am almost a 'vet' by now. Hopefully not too bitter and managing to help more than I hinder. I build and sell many things, including large collections of bookmarks.
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-06 01:15:57 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Thanks.

So is the 'tick' concept habitually misused like that other often inflated beastie ... isk-per-hour?

Like "Once I am in the site and got my ship locked-on it takes me 30s to kill a 1.6M bounty BS, therefore I run exploration sites at 64M/tick".



I'm guessing it comes from the update period of the game? I haven't run anything giving bounties in months, but I do recall that the wallet flash only occurred during a certain period (20min) for all the bounties during mission running.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#13 - 2012-01-06 13:12:14 UTC
Substantia Nigra wrote:
Thanks.

So is the 'tick' concept habitually misused like that other often inflated beastie ... isk-per-hour?

Like "Once I am in the site and got my ship locked-on it takes me 30s to kill a 1.6M bounty BS, therefore I run exploration sites at 64M/tick".




No, Ive never heard of people extrapolating 30 seconds into a 20 minute spread, especially because if all we did was kill battleships with our carrier it would be a lot higher than the time we spend on frigates. Anyways, the tick system is like this. You rat for 2 hours, and in that time you will get 6 wallet blinks, all will have different but closely related numbers. say, 33, 34, 30,33,35,34. So your average amount per tick is proximately 33 per tick, making 100mil per hour. But the question from the original post wasn't about tick quantities, its about isk/sanctum or horde. there was a long period of time when i was a younger player and didn't run them with two toons, it took me like 45 minutes to run the station sanctum, that would be 2 ticks and then some.

Anyways, id like to know the isk amount per anom, mostly the two havens and two sanctums, but also patrols. I hear alot of complaining that patrols are now worth more in the drone regions.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#14 - 2012-01-07 06:50:14 UTC
Yeah, the way the nocxium is going at the moment, drone poo will deliver more ISK/hr. Another factor, all else being equal, is that with the Noctis around, it has gotten much, much more efficient to salvage drone poo, which of course, ups the ISK value of each drone horde, because you vacuum them up faster.

I can't comment on whether Sanctums have gone down in value because I've only been doing nullsec for a few weeks after 18 months in w-space.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
Steelshine
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2012-01-07 06:57:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Steelshine
Ring Sanctums with the bonus BS added to the entry spawn probably value in around 32-34m

Forlorn Hubs are around 25m now.


So for 'decent' sites you're looking at between 25m and 34m



I can only imagine the pimp fits these people claiming 30m/tic are using in non-carriers as I average 12-15m/account/tic between two accounts, for roughly 1250 dps Roll
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#16 - 2012-01-07 12:24:55 UTC
Trinkets friend wrote:
Yeah, the way the nocxium is going at the moment, drone poo will deliver more ISK/hr. Another factor, all else being equal, is that with the Noctis around, it has gotten much, much more efficient to salvage drone poo, which of course, ups the ISK value of each drone horde, because you vacuum them up faster.

I can't comment on whether Sanctums have gone down in value because I've only been doing nullsec for a few weeks after 18 months in w-space.


Why did you leave wh space, Ive thought for a while, that if my current core goes aerie id look to go to a class 5 or 6 for the isk potential.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Dimitryy
Silent Knights.
LinkNet
#17 - 2012-01-08 19:23:07 UTC
Steelshine wrote:
Ring Sanctums with the bonus BS added to the entry spawn probably value in around 32-34m

Forlorn Hubs are around 25m now.


So for 'decent' sites you're looking at between 25m and 34m



I can only imagine the pimp fits these people claiming 30m/tic are using in non-carriers as I average 12-15m/account/tic between two accounts, for roughly 1250 dps Roll


I know how to get 35mil/tick, lie.
myFORUMalt alts
Doomheim
#18 - 2012-01-09 00:00:41 UTC
Dimitryy wrote:
Steelshine wrote:
Ring Sanctums with the bonus BS added to the entry spawn probably value in around 32-34m

Forlorn Hubs are around 25m now.


So for 'decent' sites you're looking at between 25m and 34m



I can only imagine the pimp fits these people claiming 30m/tic are using in non-carriers as I average 12-15m/account/tic between two accounts, for roughly 1250 dps Roll


I know how to get 35mil/tick, lie.



Yeah i know what you mean. I run a horde, sanctum equal, in roughly 12-14 minutes with a perfect thanatos pilot and either a max dps tengu or cruise raven. I got 120 an hour for two toons, these other people are claiming 105 with one toon. Only in a mach or a vagur is it possible and thats if you have excelent techniques.

Yes, I complain about things I don't like.
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#19 - 2012-01-09 01:06:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Jenn aSide
Steelshine wrote:

I can only imagine the pimp fits these people claiming 30m/tic are using in non-carriers as I average 12-15m/account/tic between two accounts, for roughly 1250 dps Roll


Machariels (And nightmares in Sansha/Blood Space) beat carriers for ratting/anoms.

I've gotten 32 mil ticks in Guristas Forsaken Hubs just with the mach (a little better than that in the angel ones). With the mach and the FoF tengu (I love the FoF tengu for this, no structures in forsaken hubs or cloud havens to soak up the missles) I've gotten 23-24 mil ticks per toon (so, 46 to 48 mil per tick).

Mach is normal fit (tech2 guns, faction lows), pilot has +3 implants in for gunnery stuff. Tengu has +3 missle implants.

Butr yea, I'd love to hear about how someone is getting 35 mil ticks in a carrier lol.
Trinkets friend
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#20 - 2012-01-09 03:22:36 UTC
myFORUMalt alts wrote:


Why did you leave wh space, Ive thought for a while, that if my current core goes aerie id look to go to a class 5 or 6 for the isk potential.


2 reasons - ennui and burnout.

With multi-billions of ISK, 200 ships fitted and ready, multiple pimped BLOPs, blah blah blah, why stay just for the ISK? Keep in mind that 'raiding' C1-C3's and C5's from nullsec/lowsec/hisec is also good ISK (600M in an evening sometimes), without all the hassle of running a wormhole corp, a POS, or finding my way in and out every day.

Also, I want to do sov warfare bullcrap. Its like tequila, you say never again, but eventually you forget, and back you come.

To be honest...gauging by the ISK people in my corp and alliance claim to have lying around and their incessant ratting to make scratch, I clearly only rat in nullsec because its so damn easy, while I for the first time in 18 months, don't have to worry about d-scan, about tanking (luls, naga does Sanctums), get a Local channel so I have 100% safety, and everyone else does the work looking for pew pew.

I'll go back when I can be bothered, or I get towelled up for a couple of dreads or carriers.

~~ Localectomy Blog ~~
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