EVE General Discussion

My bad, I was under the impression the RoF nerf was to all sizes of railguns, not just mediums.

Fear not: It's still Ishtars, their damage and damage application is still enough to dickpunch logi wings with ease, and the defensive nerfs to t3's (their main enemy) hit them harder than the Ishtar nerfs hit Ishtars

But I wouldn't be surprised to see highly tanky BS doctrines begin to sprout back up, probably TFI and Rattlesnake, maybe even Ravens, especially if the Sov Blog tomorrow (I hope) ends up pushing more localized sov formats where long distance traveling is reduced.

Limiting Sentry/Heavies to only BS hulls isn't the issue. It just means you'll move back to Domi Fleets.

What needs to happen is Sentries need to be nerfed such that their performance in combat is on par with other BS Weapon Systems. Cause at the moment they for all relevant ways, immune to EWAR, immune to Cap Warfare, they are stationary so they always have perfect tracking, never need to reload, etc.

They need to be dialed back. Maybe they need their own EWAR counter? A "tracking disruptor" or something that will affect them as an AOE (Target one, all within X km are affected?) or something.. or just nerf their tracking so they cant hit a frig that isn't moving Straight at it, that will do glancing blows at Cruisers that aren't moving Straight at it..

Anyway, nice thing about 6 week cycles, we don't need to wait 6-12 months to even have a chance at OP Doctrines being nerfhammered.

They are not immune to ewar. It's just that you have to lock and throw an ewar module on each one. And at 5 of them to every 1 enemy ship that becomes a pita (unless it's a Guristas ship in which case good riddance to that op ****).

Oh you mean they can still be shooting you even if you ecm the host ship? Well that only makes sense. Missile launchers have fof to shoot if damped or jammed. Likewise drones are semi-autonomous in order to get over ecm and damping of their host ships. Turret ships are just ****** if they get jammed, which is stupid.

So if you extend ewar on a host ship to it's drones then that is a rather unwelcome buff to ECM. Because you will have just removed one third of the half assed counters (ECCM, FoF, drones on aggressive) to the all too often repeating twenty seconds of might as well jerk off since I can no longer play the game.

Additionally, if launchers and turrets were destructible and you had a pretty limited supply of replacements you could equip, then by all means yeah let's extend ewar effects to a ship's drones. But by that point why even bother having different weapon systems? And instead just make one generic "dps weapon" for all ships.


Actually, something like this is the best solution. But it shouldn't be TDs. Because they are already slated to get some anti-missile effect(s).

In other Ishtar whine threads I've suggested buffing painters and painting ships, by giving a painter a secondary drone effect(s). The obvious one would be getting painted reduces drone control range. In game theory being a painted ship has it's communications with it's drones interfered with by the painting effect.

It would also fit the backstory now that Amarr sport more drone ships. Just as adding an anti-missile effect (missile range or some hit to explosion radius or speed) is slated to be added to TDs either by scripts or sister modules. Such would also make backstory sense now that Minmatar fly some missile boats.


Indeed. The present balancing team is an order of magnitude better than that which was in place during the 3 year reign of the Drake. And some of the rebalances have even been incremental tweaks, just as many view the present Ishtar nerf (and really only time will tell). This is similarly an improvement over the old baseball bat, battle axe, or sledge hammer of nerfdoom. They are doing a great job on the whole.