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Wich csm representative is for miners ?

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Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#41 - 2015-02-25 17:56:35 UTC
While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. Of course, the CSM isn't a group of game designers. We can just make suggestions. But it should give you some kind of idea where I stand on it. https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/2013/05/31/mining-rights/ is an old copy of the basic idea. There have been some tweaks to it, but the core is similar.

Someone else I'd suggest thinking about is Mike Azariah. Close to the classic 'carebear' lifestyle.

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

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Diemos Hiaraki
Septentrion
#42 - 2015-02-25 18:06:26 UTC
baltec1 wrote:
La Rynx wrote:

So who to vote?



Why, you vote for the list naturally!


Miners and industrialists of highsec rejoice! Vote for the people on the list and we will get more destruction in nullsec as more people are able to take systems for themselves. More death means a need for more ships, more ships means more minerals needed, more minerals needed means higher prices for the minerals YOU mine.

Vote smart, vote often, follow the list for a better tomorrow.


When Sion was running for CSM9 he warned of what null stagnation leads to in his 'Cap stable podcast' interview; and I think baltec1 is making a really important point that if you are a miner you really should be voting for those null folks who want to wage war. Bored sov null players often turn to ganking to relieve the monotony of what sov has become.

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My list for what it's worth - lots of null for the above reasons but I'd be fairly happy with baltec1's CSM too

Sion Kumitomo
Corebloodbrothers
Manfred Sideous
Steve Ronuken
Endie
Gorga
Thoric Frosthammer
Corbexx
Bam Stroker
Sugar Kyle
Sort Dragon
Jayne Fillon
UAxDEATH
Gorski Car




La Rynx
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#43 - 2015-02-25 18:07:23 UTC
i really wonder if something could be achieved, that supports the fun off all the different play styles. all sectors have theirs pros and cons. and sometimes i do not want to spend hours mining or hours hunting in a fleet. Still i want to play the same game and not an alternative.

Atomic Virulent : "You can't spell DOUCHE. without CODE."

Nariya Kentaya
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2015-02-25 18:14:05 UTC
so far every "mining" CSM member ive seen ever cant come up with mining concepts that arent a reintroduction of loot spew, some horrid minigame, or an abomination of both thrown together to ensure the only way to mine is to sit there for hours on end doing the exact same thing without pause

its terrible, as it is mining is fine and allows me to play on one monitor and chat with friends without being forced to stop my business-related work. and the only thing wrong with mining ships is that most miners still dont know the difference between tanking and yield mods.
Aralyn Cormallen
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#45 - 2015-02-25 18:15:53 UTC
Hakuren Shidou wrote:
kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?


I'm not sure you want to vote for someone who spends the entire term afk, and wont talk to others What?
Jallukola
#46 - 2015-02-25 18:19:17 UTC
It is irrelevant who to vote, it only matters how much they pay for the vote.

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Harry Saq
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#47 - 2015-02-25 18:22:42 UTC
Also, when you vote, vote with your heart....or your Harry Saq ;)

...ok, that was bad
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#48 - 2015-02-25 18:34:35 UTC
[quote=Steve Ronuken Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining. [/quote]


Now that is thinking outside the box.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
SONS of BANE
#49 - 2015-02-25 18:39:03 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:
While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining.


Like...gravimetric sites?
Kraft Ogburn
After School Hentai Club
#50 - 2015-02-25 18:55:29 UTC
Yeah voted for Endie and Bam as well.
Kraft Ogburn
After School Hentai Club
#51 - 2015-02-25 18:59:11 UTC
Steve Ronuken wrote:

Someone else I'd suggest thinking about is Mike Azariah. Close to the classic 'carebear' lifestyle.



Yup voted for him too.

I figure a cool panel of different mindsets is the best course. I voted for a guy from Brave, RvB, Goonwaffe, and a carebear.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#52 - 2015-02-25 19:05:16 UTC
Seven Koskanaiken wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
While I'm not specifically standing for Miners, I would like to see some things change for them. Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining.


Like...gravimetric sites?


With this, bear in mind that the CSM just get to suggest stuff. And that's in general terms. So treat this as an F&I post, or indicative of how I'd respond to something coming from CCP.


As they're just 'warp to roids and mine', not really.

Some kind of prospecting mechanic, where, given time, you can find better roids, if you have the skill. And those roids can be claimed for a corporation. (the prospecting creates the deposit. So someone can't just find all the best ones and lock someone out) so if someone claim jumps, retaliation is possible. Claims would be sellable too. Corp, rather than player level. (giving a corp a reason to exist to mine.)

Woo! CSM XI!

Fuzzwork Enterprises

Twitter: @fuzzysteve on Twitter

Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
#53 - 2015-02-25 19:13:08 UTC
You were talking about mining? Who supports this?
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#54 - 2015-02-25 22:12:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Malcanis
Jenn aSide wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining.



Now that is thinking outside the box.


Steve is a smart guy. He'll be #2 on my list.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

Grath Telkin, 11.10.2016

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#55 - 2015-02-25 22:41:42 UTC
Malcanis wrote:
Jenn aSide wrote:
Steve Ronuken wrote:
Mostly be adding gameplay to finding asteroids, rather than the actual act of mining.



Now that is thinking outside the box.


Steve is a smart guy. He'll be #2 on my list.

Didn't even read his manifesto, just voted with him as #2 on my list too.

Steve knows his stuff inside out.

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#56 - 2015-02-25 22:54:18 UTC  |  Edited by: Sabriz Adoudel
Heh, I missed this thread until now.

Mining is currently ridiculously boring, so dull that most people do it as close to AFK as they are able (either via CCP approved methods like AFK-ish mining, or via bannable offences like botting). This needs to change.

Player actions offer some of the solution to keep mining interesting by making it dangerous, but it is my feeling that the system for mining is broken enough to need serious work.

I would endorse changes to mining mechanics that incentivise miners to work together and field fleets with combat escorts to protect them from both player and NPC dangers. Currently this is not even remotely sensible to do.

Until then, I will shoot the AFK miners (both doing it myself and facilitating other gankers) and help thin out your competition.



Edit: For what it's worth I do also endorse Steve R for CSM as his in-game actions are those of a producer that will actively defend himself in-game when his interests are threatened. More miners and producers should follow his lead.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Omgitsbears
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#57 - 2015-02-25 22:58:51 UTC
Hakuren Shidou wrote:
kinda curious i was looking into the csm forum section but WHo stands for miners ?


Do we even need a CSM who represents miners? I have a 1+ year old mining alt and I use that character the most, and I really don't feel like this is an area of Eve-O that needs to be visited. Maybe a Tier III mining vessel would be real cool, but otherwise I can't think of anything CCP needs to change about this profession.
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#58 - 2015-02-25 23:15:00 UTC
Oh and one more thing that might surprise people. I would support improvements to the Prospect, to make it more effective than it currently is as a mining vessel.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com

Sibyyl
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#59 - 2015-02-25 23:34:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Sibyyl
Mining is at the center of Sab's conflict and opportunity platform. At its onset it might seem hostile and adversarial, but the truth is that a lot of the other candidates have things other than mining to worry about in this big giant game that is EVE.

Sab might drive changes into cooperative play for mining, or how mining opportunities align with player corporations, or she just might completely wreck mining ISK/hr or move resources out of hisec altogether.

The point is, we have a person here who is thinking about this often-lampooned and afterthought-ish career of mining in EVE as a pillar of her platform. She could be a channel for more dialog about this profession in the next year of CSM. She would certainly draw our collective attentions to mining, above and over stuff like SOV and POSes that a pure miner might not care about.




Mike may be another candidate with his eye on this topic. I will be putting a vote in for Mike, but I personally can't agree with most of what he supports.



Edit: Grammar is hard. It might seem with my poor word choices that I'm speaking for these candidates.. I am not. It is simply my observations of what they appear to support. Happy voting.

Joffy Aulx-Gao for CSM. Fix links and OGB. Ban stabs from plexes. Fulfill karmic justice.

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
#60 - 2015-02-25 23:53:56 UTC  |  Edited by: Herzog Wolfhammer
What's this? None of the candidates have been playing more than 5 years?

This CSM is not going to properly represent the senior vote around here.

Edit - my bad - there are. Unclicked the wrong box.

Senior moment...

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