EVE New Citizens Q&A

Just keep doing what your doing man, you'll get there eventually! it just takes time. I've been playing for years man, and I'm constantly broke ingame lol, I just make enough to pvp with, no more no less.

More important than isk is finding the right corp, it's probably the single most important a new player must do imo, so if your current one does nothing as a group, then it's porbably best that you leave. Take your time looking for a new one, don't rush it, and don't just join the first one that your fancy. Have a good look at the recruitment section here on the forum, check killboards, corp webpages etc. join their ingame public channel and just hang there for a few days, get to know a few of them, see how active they are, see if they're chilled dudes etc... the right corp for you is out there, you just gotta find it

Level I missions just flat suck when it comes to rewards. So do the Level IIs - but - once you get into Level III's it starts to pay better and the salvage gets better too.

Mixing Mining and Mission running can be done but you really need to think about which one you're really interested in.

If you get a Mining Cruiser and train just mining itself, then you can make a little money with that and not have to spend a lot of your skill points on mining if you're character is primarily going to be a Mission Runner.

If you're going to be a miner - then you can run Level I missions - and mine those you find asteroids in. This is a relatively safe way to jet can mine - as only someone who is using Combat Scanner Probes can find you and your jet cans ... pretty much. Run you missions in a quiet system with no level IV Agents to attract Ninja Salvagers - and you'll probably never have anyone in system using combat scanner probes.


Mission Running doesn't require another account. You can make good use of a second but past that it becomes increasingly difficult to manage the ships.

Mining and industry benefit greatly from multiple accounts. It's far easier to manage the ships - you've just got to cycle through them, keep the lasers running and haul the ore back to the station then come back for more. With research, manufacture, blue print manipulation the more hands you have the more jobs you can do. Just be aware - that each character you create has a certain amount of overhead associated with them and that is some limit to how many things you can manage.


Also - you want to get involved in Trading if you're going to be an industrialist. Being an industrialist is being a business man. You have to run missions for standings, buy and sell things, manufacture and possibly mine.

Mission Running is fairly simple and straight forward - running a business is as complicated as you can make it.

So hang in there - you'll get to where you are making more money. The thing is - what seems like a lot of money now ... won't later. You'll be making more ... but some how ... never have enough ...


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thanks for the ideas, salvaging sounds ok to get on with.

as for mining i got a barge and have quite a few raw materials sat in my items box i am stock piling it for a rainy day :)

nice thanks

now my noobness kicks in:- i have no idea how to scan down or even find a radar site , i also have no idea what hunting a 1/10ded site means. it sounds interesting........however at this moment in time i think i may be trying to run before i can walk...at the moment am crawlin on hands n knees :)

cheers

Oh come on Comrades! Does nobody have the heart to tell him the truth? If they won't, I will, Comrade Chili.

You see most of the real wealth in Eve is only accessible in zero and most of that is accessible only by large alliances through highly coordinated methods of gathering. (This means you must have a lot of sheepishly loyal corpies to watch your back while you do this.) Once you understand this, the obvious answer is to join a good corporation/alliance in zero in order to "get in line" for the goods. This, unfortunately, is where the game breaks down in your ability to collect. You see no matter what they promise you, ninety percent of the promises are just BS (not "battleship" by the way) which they shovel out as regular propaganda to get you to join up and spend your game time and effort doing what they want you to.

What they want are "serfs". Low paid peasants to populate their RMT Plantations in Zero to defend their moon-mining and other isk making operations, while you as the serf are expected to be enthusiastically overjoyed that they will replace your ship, if lost, in return for your servitude (read slavery). If you ever got a look at the real accounting books for how much isk was generated by these "farms" and where and to whom it went, you would never set foot in zero to serve them. Nevermind the lies you will be told about "open" accounting reports (ala the Goons). These are all lies and they are skilled at burying the details under multiple shell Corporations and through transaction chains that not even CCP (who runs the game) came fathom. The amount of RMT metagaming that goes on in Eve is proof of this.

On the other hand, if you have no self respect and are willing slave material, then go to zero, sign up as cannon fodder and be happy with your free ship. (It's not even that good on many Plantations, because they will charge you a monthly rental fee for the "privilege" of serving them). What a scam! What ignorant sheep!

If you have any self respect, you should be asking the locals about Worm Holes. At least there you can make an isk without sucking Coka-Cola. (Of course it will take you quite a few months to skill up for this and it still takes a few close buddies to pull it off, but your buddies and you will know the size of the pie you are splitting)

You've been awful active on these boards looking for guidance and advice etc, so the following might seem a bit off:


Throw out the book for a week or two. Go explore for a bit, just flying around.

Your mission frigate you've been using, go fly about with it until you see one of those Pins on the Overview that isn't a station / gate / asteroid belt etc and fly to it, see whats in it.
Get a shuttle or better yet, use that frigate again, go bop about low sec for a bit.
Shoot at someone with a cheap ship, get conkordokkened, get podded, flip some cans
Pick a system on the map that looks far far away. Try to get there, if you die, reship and continue until you do.
With the probing skills mentioned already, try to probe down a guy running a mission just to say high, even if you don't steal from him, salvage his wrecks or otherwise get in the way.
Try to rat in belts in lowsec, you'll get interrupted, get away or shoot back ( who cares if you pop )
Chase haulers through lowsec in a cheap T1 frigate

Just go out and explore for goodness sake :) Eve is big.

The more you see in the game, the more opportunities for entertainment present themselves.

I'm confident that if you go out looking for adventure and someone blows up your last ship, you'll find two more folk willing to help you back on your feet with free ships, ISK etc.

When you're young in game, loss is cheap :)
abuse that fact and go find some fun.

After the week or two ( if you don't find yourself hooked on something you stumbled into ) feel free to getting back on the book learning.

You come across as starting to develop the carebear stare, like you're boxing yourself into only a few things the game has to offer with such a young character.

@ L'ouris thanks for the advice m8

just been snooping round and on my overview map i got a blue box that said free loot or words to that effect when i got to it, it looked like a map pin that said CAN.

whats that all about?

ta

Cereal? O.o

you've been hoovering up guides and website links for over a month :)

It's a bait can, if it's blue, you can take anything that's in it without worrying about someone chasing you.

You can salvage any can for the leftovers, those leftovers are used for building rigs and such. Sell leftovers for some iskies if so desired.

If the can is yellow, someone is trying to get you to take stuff so they can shoot at you. Could be a side adventure all on its own.

When in doubt, right click -> show info

Good luck o/

did it look like a pin on some paper?

that sounds like someones Bookmark, you can drag it into your people and places and then you have the BM and can warp to it.

If its sitting in the can, your probably gonna want to warp in at at least 100 first :P