Warfare & Tactics

I was a little annoyed that a single Stratios broke the shield tank on my raven within a couple of minutes while I couldn't even make a small dent in the armour tank on the stratios.

Does anyone have any experience PVP'ing stratios'? I'm curious to know how much DPS you need to break the armour tank and what fittings people use to have that armour tank that they do.

It's called having a smaller sig radius and speed. Missiles suck at applying damage to targets who have both.

By you not being able to make a dent, do you mean your damage application was terrible, his buffer was huge, or that he was repping through it easily?

As it was said by Elfred, post with your main, we can look up your lossmail, and any stratios lossmails of your adversary and see what he was likely fitting and then we can give you better advice.

Barring all that, what everyone else said: large missiles don't apply well so that's a big part of your problem

Sorry, it's impossible give anything but the most generic advice without more specific information.

Stratios tend to be armor buffter tanked. In those instances their tanks don't "break".

a fairly standard dual rep stratios depending on the use of boosters (very likely, since tracking malus is not really a concern on a strat, and cap malus isnt'e enough to put a dent in it) and or links can easily tank 500+ to 900+ dps for as long as he has cap boosters to shovel in and keep the reppers going

I have ran some numbers on Eve Fitting tool to help you understand how missiles work and how ineffective they are against smaller, fast ships.

If your target has an afterburner fit (likely) then at max speed you would only do 90 damage per second (DPS) to him even with the target painter applied. This is before his resists which are most likely weakest to explosive damage but easily above 60% with an energized adaptive nano membrane. This does not include any drone damage which is probably negligible anyhow.

90 DPS before resists would be easy to tank with an armor repairer or two.

Here is the graph: http://prntscr.com/6blmds

(Without the target painter you would deal about 68 DPS before resists. The reason why the graph drops suddenly is due to the target painters falloff showing you are not going to be applying it properly at range.)

Now had he been stationary you would have hit for 400 DPS before armor... it was his speed that meant your cruise missiles explosion couldn't apply full damage. http://prntscr.com/6bln1k

Now I notice the Raven also has bonuses to Rapid Heavy Missile Launchers so I ran the numbers for RHML vs the enemy using an afterburner (at about 600m/s) - and you would be impressed with the results of 300 DPS before resists: http://prntscr.com/6blnzb

Amusingly if you had had light missile launchers fitted you would have actually also have done 100 DPS before resists to him when he was travelling at max speed.

Finally the reasons:

Missiles have an explosion velocity and explosion radius. They compare their explosion velocity to target speed and the explosion radius to target signature. If the target is going faster than the explosion velocity and/or has less of a signature than the explosion radius then it will take much reduced damage. Cruise missiles have a poor explosion velocity and a large explosion radius - both bad against a fast moving and small cruiser sized ship that you fought. This is why stealth bombers get completely destroyed by interceptors - their torpedoes barely do 20 DPS if the interceptor is moving.

As explained above at length it is applied DPS you need. Many factors affect that.

No no no.

The answer is 42.

So would a stasis webifier have been more effective than a target painter?

Don't PVP when you are fitted for PVE.