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Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#421 - 2016-04-13 18:27:23 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:
Diana Kim wrote:

When a freedom fighter dies we all can smile and say "Good riddance" with relief.

You have behaved offensively and insulting in a discussion without trying to explain yourself.

Behaving offensively is calling themselves freedom fighters and fighting for freedom.
I'll pretty much behave offensively when I meet them and shoot their dumb brains out before they even realise what happened. For now, I am rather friendly and tame. Mostly because I can't shoot through the NeoCom holoscreen.

Deitra Vess wrote:

But when I called you for this (by telling you to shut up), but when I explained myself and my reasoning for telling you to shut up you replied with the words I am mimicking and added a few words to.

You didn't "call for this", you simply jumped into discussion to behave like a troll. I think I have already explained my reason for you to shut up, which you in fact fail to follow every time.

Deitra Vess wrote:
Whatever, Ms kim I think I should start parading around reminding people of your lack of honor in refusing to back your word by dueling me

I'll gladly shoot your empty brains out of your disgusting clone shall you dare to appear at my station instead of barking here.

Deitra Vess wrote:

And no Ms Kim, they don't call themselves that, you and others who aren't associated with them and/or fight them do.

If freedom fighters don't call themselves freedom fighters, maybe you'll reveal to all of us how exactly do freedom fighters call themselves?..

That will be amusing to hear.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Deitra Vess
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#422 - 2016-04-13 19:23:31 UTC
Diana Kim wrote:

Behaving offensively is calling themselves freedom fighters and fighting for freedom.
I'll pretty much behave offensively when I meet them and shoot their dumb brains out before they even realise what happened. For now, I am rather friendly and tame. Mostly because I can't shoot through the NeoCom holoscreen.

How dare they call themselves what they are! The other parts of this... well, no real comment for me to make.

Diana Kim wrote:
You didn't "call for this", you simply jumped into discussion to behave like a troll. I think I have already explained my reason for you to shut up, which you in fact fail to follow every time.

What you said was about as relevant to the discussion at hand as my response to you and the additional ones after it. They are irrelevant. Unless cherry picking a single sentence from it and running with it is ok. In that case I'm as innocent as you.

Diana Kim wrote:
I'll gladly shoot your empty brains out of your disgusting clone shall you dare to appear at my station instead of barking here.
I'm not the one who initially had some bloodlust. You know where to find me, If that location, Being in enemy territory(Matari controlled) yet on the border of Amarr controlled space, is an issue feel free to choose another Matari low sec system and well fight there. I'm not chasing you for a duel you called for and can't honor.

Diana Kim wrote:
If freedom fighters don't call themselves freedom fighters, maybe you'll reveal to all of us how exactly do freedom fighters call themselves?..

That will be amusing to hear.

I think you confused my words, Freedom fighters don't call themselves Chaos fighters, you do.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#423 - 2016-04-13 20:10:00 UTC
Deitra Vess wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:
You didn't "call for this", you simply jumped into discussion to behave like a troll. I think I have already explained my reason for you to shut up, which you in fact fail to follow every time.

What you said was about as relevant to the discussion at hand as my response to you and the additional ones after it. They are irrelevant. Unless cherry picking a single sentence from it and running with it is ok. In that case I'm as innocent as you.

Vess... I have answered the question that has appeared in the discussion to show my point of view, while you have appeared in this discussion just to insult me based on how I answered that question. As innocent as me? That's straightforward lie.

Deitra Vess wrote:

Diana Kim wrote:
I'll gladly shoot your empty brains out of your disgusting clone shall you dare to appear at my station instead of barking here.
I'm not the one who initially had some bloodlust. You know where to find me, If that location, Being in enemy territory(Matari controlled) yet on the border of Amarr controlled space, is an issue feel free to choose another Matari low sec system and well fight there. I'm not chasing you for a duel you called for and can't honor.

Vess, we have discussed it already in other discussion that you have ALSO disrupted with your trolling about me. I'll repeat it here as well. If you attack me in words, get some courage to come and attack with action and stop your clownery, coward.

Deitra Vess wrote:

I think you confused my words, Freedom fighters don't call themselves Chaos fighters, you do.

How many times should I repeat the question for a tribal to finally understand it?
I'll repeat one more time, special for you, Vess (since I bet all other readers got it anyway).
I've asked how Freedom fighters call themselves if they don't call themselves Freedom fighters.
You have just repeated my words how they don't call themselves, but you didn't tell how they do. Besides, you have called them Freedom Fighters as well, just like I did.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#424 - 2016-04-13 20:12:02 UTC
Seriously. Make a new thread.
Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#425 - 2016-04-13 20:17:52 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Seriously. Make a new thread.

No, it should end here. I really don't need another DK rant thread cluttering up my fourms.

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Luna Hanaya
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#426 - 2016-04-13 22:40:35 UTC
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Seriously. Make a new thread.

No, it should end here. I really don't need another DK rant thread cluttering up my fourms.

Probably you should stop then ranting about her yourself. Don't you see how reactive she is? If you don't like her, bring it to her in private. Otherwise, expect Diana to snap on you here in 3... 2...

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Claudia Osyn
Non-Hostile Target
Wild Geese.
#427 - 2016-04-14 06:05:38 UTC
Luna Hanaya wrote:
Claudia Osyn wrote:
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Seriously. Make a new thread.

No, it should end here. I really don't need another DK rant thread cluttering up my fourms.

Probably you should stop then ranting about her yourself. Don't you see how reactive she is? If you don't like her, bring it to her in private. Otherwise, expect Diana to snap on you here in 3... 2...

Just sayin' we don't need five of us doing it..... and I never said I didn't like her. She's an adorable little ball of xenophobic rage. What's not to like about that?Big smile

A little trust goes a long way. The less you use, the further you'll go.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#428 - 2016-04-14 13:54:43 UTC
Well ... I did a little digging, and found a few things.

SFRIM did indeed transfer Mr. Dauhagin into the possession of a capsuleer, Lord Zekiel Iyhr. Lord Iyhr's estate was indeed the target of a recent attack, but his lordship remains alive and well. Apparently a guard was shot repeatedly during the extraction, and came close enough to death that someone did actually file murder charges. That guard didn't actually die (I guess he's got a lot of prosthetic parts, now), but the warrant's still there.

I politely suggested to the clerk aiding me that perhaps a modification would be appropriate, and got a noncommittal response. Maybe the warrant will be changed, maybe not. Either way, if Mr. Dauhagin ends up in Imperial custody for some reason, the charge would probably be attempted murder, either in person or as part of a conspiracy.

So ... I guess nobody died, Holder or otherwise (though from the reports that might be news to the extraction team-- when you shoot somebody that many times you might reasonably expect them to stay down).

Anyway, that's kind of a relief.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#429 - 2016-04-14 16:20:35 UTC
Hmm, pity. Might have to give the Network a different set of names and a different kind of... hint.
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#430 - 2016-04-14 22:23:21 UTC
I have received a reply from Chaduk. Because he is a filthy Minmatar subhuman, I have no obligation to respect his privacy:
Chaduk wrote:

Master

Fear not, for I shall return to you when the Red God causes it to be so. I am His chosen instrument whereby, at the appointed time, the blood of the sacred and the profane will be mixed in desolation. The Altar of God is you, and He will glory in the shedding and the sacrifice.

This is revealed to me through your ministrations, and His grace dispensed through releasing me from them: to return only when both of us are worthy.

Prepare well, Master, as must I - for Hell awaits us.

- His Instrument


How bizarre are the doctrines with which SFRIM indoctrinates its slaves! Chaduk is the "chosen instrument"? Blood of the sacred and profane mixed in desolation? The Altar of God is me?

O how wicked is SFRIM. O how vile is SFRIM. Even so, may the Blood Age come quickly. Amen. Amarr Victor.
Maria Daphiti
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#431 - 2016-04-14 22:38:24 UTC
Nauplius wrote:


How bizarre are the doctrines with which I, Nauplius, indoctrinate my slaves! Chaduk is the "chosen instrument"? Blood of the sacred and profane mixed in desolation? The Altar of God is me?

O how wicked I am. O how vile I am. .


Fixed that for you
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#432 - 2016-04-15 01:06:12 UTC
To possibly thoroughly mutilate a verse in the Scripture:

"He who sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind."

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#433 - 2016-04-15 13:15:01 UTC
Interesting information, Captain Jenneth. I too, am glad that no-one died - the achievement of liberty for many is made the greater achievement for it.

As for Nauplius, let us assume - for the sake of argument - that what you report as a message from Dauhagin is not some more of your twisted propaganda, but something he actually communicated. It is well known that people tortured and imprisoned beyond our comprehension may take on the beliefs and worldview of their oppressors. At the very least, it sometimes moderates the brutality by saying what their captor wants to hear. At the worst, torture and mind-destroying drugs will change the subject into something unrecognisable.

We know from Captain Jenneth and the medical aid given by SFRIM that the fellow was deranged by Vitoc, and had only started to heal. It is not surprising then, that faced with his torturer, he might offer back a garbled parody of defiance and the echoes of subjugation. Since they do not actually believe what has been forced upon them, they often get the details twisted. If anything, you should be humiliated that despite the immense cruelty you inflicted, the version of your corrupted faith instilled into the subject is mangled and incoherent even by your own standards. You can't even brainwash properly, which reflects poorly on the future of your abominable doctrines. 'Bizarre' to be sure, and not much of an apostle.

The good news is that should Dauhagin survive among friends and freedom for long enough, the process of his mind healing that was started by the kindnesses of Captain Jenneth and SFRIM, will inevitably clear even the last vestiges of your influence. How miserable your failure then, even more so than now.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#434 - 2016-04-17 09:05:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Diana Kim
Skyweir Kinnison wrote:

As for Nauplius, let us assume - for the sake of argument - that what you report as a message from Dauhagin is not some more of your twisted propaganda, but something he actually communicated. It is well known that people tortured and imprisoned beyond our comprehension may take on the beliefs and worldview of their oppressors. At the very least, it sometimes moderates the brutality by saying what their captor wants to hear. At the worst, torture and mind-destroying drugs will change the subject into something unrecognisable.


I've replied to this and started new discussion regarding reasons of torture here https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6443446#post6443446

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#435 - 2016-05-18 15:02:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Aria Jenneth
Entry Forty-One: So, This Happened

It's been a while since I've written here. It may be quite a while before I write again.

Being a wanderer, without responsibilities to anyone, made writing easy. I could say what I thought, and have little fear of what might result. I knew the Directrix well, and most of what I learned was fair game. As her retainer, though, her aide-- it changes things. I'm not a wanderer anymore. I'm not sure whether I can really still be a writer.

This seems like something I should write about, though.

Nauplius is retiring. Actually, by the time I post this, his license will probably have expired.

Almost every capsuleer I know of who doesn't see us as either current or incipient gods seems to think the pod has a corrosive effect on us-- on our morals, on our empathy, on our souls, according to some theories. Nauplius, it turns out, is no different: the pod's been giving him impure thoughts, he feels.

... only, considering the nature of those thoughts, I'm not at all sure the capsule is his problem. I gather this wasn't the only thing on his mind, but apparently he had a crush on me. (This was a little bit obvious, really, but he came out and admitted it.) As much as that's the sort of understanding that might kind of make me want to pull my head in through my collarbone and huddle under my blankets until the world goes away, it was probably the only reason what came next could happen.

You see, after this revelation (and after I retrieved my skin from under the couch where it had crawled off to hide), Nauplius mentioned that, retiring, he didn't really have a place to put his 33 thousand-or-so prisoners. I asked what it would take for me to take them off his hands.

He requested a hug. Preferred it, in fact, to a scroll drawn in my own blood using one of the brushes he'd commissioned based on a certain dream I'd had.

"Come to my quarters; I will have to have an associate search you for weapons," are words that come with a side-order of icicle through the heart when you've just had The Butcher (who has been known to really get on a tear about wanting, basically, everything-- and about how the appropriate way to claim what you desire is to take it) admit to having a crush on you.

Thirty-three thousand is a lot of people, though. Also, certain aspects of Nauplius's views on God, and sin, and his attitude towards me personally, made me think that, given the chance, he'd hesitate to harm me.

(This is not where I argue that Nauplius is misunderstood. He's gone to some lengths to make sure that he's well and clearly understood, especially the most upside-down aspects of his morality. He might be a little under-understood, though. He's surrounded by minions, but I'm not sure I've met a lonelier person.)

So, I gave Nauplius a hug. (The minion at the door was not encouraging. Nauplius himself was a complete gentleman. For, you know, mass-murdering values of "gentleman." ... It's not like my own hands are completely clean, though.)

Did I mention thirty-three thousand is a lot of people? Especially when they're all going into Vitoc withdrawal more or less simultaneously? Gottin's Lamp medical is swimming in suffering again as we once again try to work out what combinations of Vitoxin Nauplius's people have been using and deal with the aftereffects of his extensive use of TCMCs.

We've done it before, but he's redoubled his efforts since last time. There's a lot of work to do, and I didn't exactly give the staff at the Lamp a lot of notice that this was going to happen. (Offers of assistance very much appreciated!)

I'm not sure what to think about this-- how to process it, exactly. For now, I think I'll just designate it a Thing That Happened, and leave it at that.
Skyweir Kinnison
Doomheim
#436 - 2016-05-18 16:12:36 UTC
For what it's worth, I think you were exceptionally brave. Not necessarily in the physical endangerment sense, but the moral sense.

You do credit to your god. I'm told He is supposed to work in mysterious ways, so perhaps that can give you a way of evading any analysis - as an act of faith, needing no reasons.

Humanity has won its battle. Liberty now has a country.

Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#437 - 2016-05-18 16:19:37 UTC
Hm. Now, if only I wasn't alone in wanting this Insorum Component research project running.
Ashlar Vellum
Esquire Armaments
#438 - 2016-05-18 16:31:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Ashlar Vellum
So Naup had a secret crush, that's cute.
Che Biko
Alexylva Paradox
#439 - 2016-05-18 20:59:27 UTC
Makoto Priano
Kirkinen-Arataka Transhuman Zenith Consulting Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#440 - 2016-05-18 22:37:59 UTC
What if, this entire time, Nauplius just needed a hug?

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