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Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#341 - 2016-03-04 18:24:55 UTC
I understand your feelings on this. Mizhara, Utari, Aria...

That a Matari, an Amarr, two wayward Angels and a score of other various Capsuleers can agree on anything is significant.

We all agree that we would like to see an end to his activities. We understand the importance of not feeding his ego; not giving him the validation he craves.

But no one wants to take the steps needed to end it. It's too big. The methods would be too unethical, too illegal. It would take too many pilots, drain too many resources. How can we possibly use so many locator agents to find him at will? How can we have a pilot waiting outside of a station at all times to shoot him down the moment he undocks? How do we get around CONCORD to do this? How do we cut him off from his resources so he can't buy slaves? How do we effect a capture and fit him with a TCMC when some of us value personal liberty? Will this even work on a Capsuleer for the long-term? How do we stop him without making him a martyr to other Sanists? Don't we have so many bigger threats to deal with?

I know a million dead Matari who don't care anymore about finding a solution. To them, the point is moot.

You know who cares? The million Matari who have less than a year to live before Nauplius scoops them up.

There are solutions to the problem. There just aren't very many willing to damn themselves to achieve it.



"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Morgan Wulver
SAYR Reserve Guard
SAYR Galactic
#342 - 2016-03-04 18:41:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Morgan Wulver
Are we talking about that human genital wart today? Because more than anything I'm simply confused on what his practicality is. It has no feasible economic gain, or for that matter any pragmatic reason. A million slaves, even in the Empire for a capsuleer, isn't cheap. If he's so insistant on gathering attention and stroking his ego then that same amount of ISK could have been spent on a massive penile enlargement surgery or conducting multiple bake sales on various planets selling cakes in the shape of his head.

Even if it is all really in the name of his god, assuming the afterlife has some form of a postmortem-processing system then sending a million souls to their end would just seem like his giving his lord a massive chore to complete. What an *******.

Kirjuun! Uakan! Teknikiara! Kanpai kameitsamuu! Ra ra ra!

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#343 - 2016-03-04 19:08:15 UTC
Morgan Wulver wrote:
Are we talking about that human genital wart today?


I guess we are. It seems to be easier than talking about the other thing I brought up.

Sinjin Mokk wrote:
Mizhara, Utari, Aria...

That a Matari, an Amarr, two wayward Angels....


Wait. A Matari, an Amarr, two wayward....

. . . .

So-- Mr. Mokk? I can see your logic, and, also, a little more clearly why you thought I'd be a logical choice for your earlier plans.

At the same time, it's a little chilling that you still think of me as such a person. The Angel was my prior self. Even she wasn't really one, though, and it's probably her I'm supposed to be a weapon against.

It's true that I'm probably a tool of the Cartel. It's not like I volunteered for the job, though.

If someone only gets to exist because of a plot, is that plot, then, her nationality?

Quote:
There are solutions to the problem. There just aren't very many willing to damn themselves to achieve it.


Maybe if I thought it was more clearly my responsibility to do such a thing.

Even if I thought of myself that way, though ... Miz isn't wrong. Nauplius isn't exactly a civilization-endangering theat.

He is kind of hard to ignore, though.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#344 - 2016-03-04 21:18:51 UTC
Far bigger fish to fry out there.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#345 - 2016-03-04 21:49:45 UTC
Mizhara Del'thul wrote:
Far bigger fish to fry out there.


Aren't there always, though? I mean, maybe out there there's a Drifter Titan pilot and autocrat with the words, "BIGGEST FISH" drawn on its scalp in Achur calligraphy.

... That would be kind of neat, actually. I feel like I might have just described the next story arc villain for some NOH drama or other.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#346 - 2016-03-04 22:51:56 UTC
What fish is the biggest depends on your point of view. You don't see the Empire's threat and causing of suffering as a fish worth frying, I do. Same applies to other nasties out there, but the simple fact is that Nauplius doesn't even register on the scales of the lil' fishies I've got my sights on.
Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#347 - 2016-03-04 23:11:47 UTC
I prefer to set myself achievable goals and then track my performance in achieving them. It seems more... sane... somehow.

I've done my share of shooting at Nauplius and it's futile. The Amarrians seem to have shouldered the burden of thwarting his plans insofar as they can be thwarted and I'm fairly sure that's the best solution. A million people is a tragedy, but it's clearly a legal charity - perhaps that's the thing that could be worked on?

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Utari Onzo
Escalated.
OnlyFleets.
#348 - 2016-03-05 08:51:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Utari Onzo
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
...a Matari, an Amarr, two wayward Angels...


..Walk into a bar. I'm eager to hear the end of this joke.

In all seriousness my Lord Mokk, the issue is not only how illegal such an activity might be, but also kind of how impossible. I mean, you're saying we need to pod the man, kidnap him and hope he doesn't have a soft clone contract and some kind of self immolation device which would render the kidnapping moot. If I was him, these are precautions I would take. Infact, they're precautions I did take as a Director and Co-Founder of 13 for precisely a situation such as this one.

"Face the enemy as a solid wall For faith is your armor And through it, the enemy will find no breach Wrap your arms around the enemy For faith is your fire And with it, burn away his evil"

Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#349 - 2016-03-05 13:10:01 UTC
Utari Onzo wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
...a Matari, an Amarr, two wayward Angels...


..Walk into a bar. I'm eager to hear the end of this joke.

In all seriousness my Lord Mokk, the issue is not only how illegal such an activity might be, but also kind of how impossible. I mean, you're saying we need to pod the man, kidnap him and hope he doesn't have a soft clone contract and some kind of self immolation device which would render the kidnapping moot. If I was him, these are precautions I would take. Infact, they're precautions I did take as a Director and Co-Founder of 13 for precisely a situation such as this one.



Well, if he didn't have such precautions in place, he does now...


Capsuleers can be captured or killed. It's difficult, but possible. Curbing his activities by attacking him whenever he undocks is another option. CONCORD won't like it, but then what have they ever done to curtail his hobbies? Oh but that's such a drain of pilots and resources...

To Aria: Well...I did say wayward. Your status is rather loosely defined. But you do have a piece of Heaven still in you. It's within that modality that you'd find a solution. The Wanderer, the Amarrian; these aspects don't have what it takes to defeat someone like Nauplius.

"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#350 - 2016-03-05 16:53:33 UTC
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
To Aria: Well...I did say wayward. Your status is rather loosely defined. But you do have a piece of Heaven still in you. It's within that modality that you'd find a solution. The Wanderer, the Amarrian; these aspects don't have what it takes to defeat someone like Nauplius.


What if I don't want that kind of role, Mr. Mokk?

Nauplius's god, if He existed, would be the enemy of humanity. I'd see it as a duty to find a way to destroy such a being, even if it meant eternity ended in that moment.

I don't think he exists, though.

Nauplius ... makes me angry. He takes his lead from the creature in his head, allows that horror to dictate his actions and worldview. Ideally, that's not something I should actually hold against him very much-- but I do.

It's true that I'm a killer, not that different from Pieter or Des. (A little different from Veiki, though.) That's something I accept. But I've never killed out of hate before. I'd rather not start soon. My aim is to serve my purpose and hone my soul, not to distort and twist my spirit-- or an otherwise-workable plan-- by acting out of rage.

Nauplius makes me really angry. When it comes to him, my eyes aren't clear.

That makes me someone who should stay away.

(I don't think I make much of an Amarrian, either. Admittedly, I'm in love with one, and feel strong loyalty towards another, but that probably shouldn't be confused with "being Amarr." The Amarr themselves certainly don't seem to think so.)
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#351 - 2016-03-05 22:01:16 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
But I've never killed out of hate before. I'd rather not start soon.

Wait. You have threatened to skin members of my staff alive. What emotion, if not hatred, motivates such threats?

Aria Jenneth wrote:

(I don't think I make much of an Amarrian, either. Admittedly, I'm in love with one...

This is an interesting revelation. Please elaborate on this matter in future Sojurn posts.
Aria Jenneth
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#352 - 2016-03-05 22:40:44 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Aria Jenneth wrote:
But I've never killed out of hate before. I'd rather not start soon.

Wait. You have threatened to skin members of my staff alive. What emotion, if not hatred, motivates such threats?


No-- that's pretty much anger, if not hate. That certain member of your staff has gone above and beyond in ways I don't believe human beings should.

I just haven't actually killed anyone out of hatred yet-- and even if I get the chance, I might not. I'd sort of like to think I'd be able to resist demonstrating exactly what I think of such a person, in intricate detail.

I might do it anyway, though.
Sinjin Mokk
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#353 - 2016-03-06 01:42:58 UTC
Aria Jenneth wrote:
Sinjin Mokk wrote:
To Aria: Well...I did say wayward. Your status is rather loosely defined. But you do have a piece of Heaven still in you. It's within that modality that you'd find a solution. The Wanderer, the Amarrian; these aspects don't have what it takes to defeat someone like Nauplius.


What if I don't want that kind of role, Mr. Mokk?

Nauplius's god, if He existed, would be the enemy of humanity. I'd see it as a duty to find a way to destroy such a being, even if it meant eternity ended in that moment.

I don't think he exists, though.

Nauplius ... makes me angry. He takes his lead from the creature in his head, allows that horror to dictate his actions and worldview. Ideally, that's not something I should actually hold against him very much-- but I do.

It's true that I'm a killer, not that different from Pieter or Des. (A little different from Veiki, though.) That's something I accept. But I've never killed out of hate before. I'd rather not start soon. My aim is to serve my purpose and hone my soul, not to distort and twist my spirit-- or an otherwise-workable plan-- by acting out of rage.

Nauplius makes me really angry. When it comes to him, my eyes aren't clear.

That makes me someone who should stay away.

(I don't think I make much of an Amarrian, either. Admittedly, I'm in love with one, and feel strong loyalty towards another, but that probably shouldn't be confused with "being Amarr." The Amarr themselves certainly don't seem to think so.)



I've killed for faith, killed for duty and honor, killed for hate...oh yeah, I've done that in spades. Now I kill for money. Or I don't, but the decision to kill is now mine. So I respect your view totally. Love? I suppose that could play out much the same. Duty, passion, money...but at the end of the day, you can't really control either. Things happen.


"Angels live, they never die, Apart from us, behind the sky. They're fading souls who've turned to ice, So ashen white in paradise."

Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#354 - 2016-03-06 20:33:31 UTC
Now that Lunarisse Aspenstar is back, I would like her to address the accusations made in posts 304 and 306 as well as tell us what she is doing to get recover the dangerously ill-disciplined slave Chaduk from wherever she sent him.
Lunarisse Aspenstar
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#355 - 2016-03-06 22:33:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Lunarisse Aspenstar
Nauplius wrote:
Now that Lunarisse Aspenstar is back, I would like her to address the accusations made in posts 304 and 306 as well as tell us what she is doing to get recover the dangerously ill-disciplined slave Chaduk from wherever she sent him.


Nauplius, I care little for what you think. Nor am I going to provide you free intel as to the whereabouts of your victims for you to attempt torment them again.

A brief summary, however, and a warmest set of thanks for those capsuleers who offered and provided assistance, both in and outside the Empire (and there were many from across the different empires and private corporations, who transcended political issues to help those in need).

Because obviously once rescued from the Towers, Nauplius's victims could not magically be transported immediately to new arrangements, initial triage and care was through the auspices of the Society and friends.

Given that the victims were obtained from the SCC markets in the Empire and/or the Kingdom and no centralized registry of prior ownership was available, once stabilized, those victims who were able to regain a sufficient level of functioning, were repatriated to responsible Holders with a record of providing humane oversight to their charges and with the facilities and resources to handle persons with physical and mental impairments. Any future disposition is in the charge of those Holders. This was a slow process given that even those in the best condition had severe Vitoxin dependencies and PTSD. Some Holders approached were unwilling to take on "damaged goods". Those Holders who did take them on, largely did so on humanitarian grounds.

A large percentage of victims (nearly 60 percent) suffered such mental trauma that they have been placed in long-term mental care facilities, probably for the balance of their natural lives.

At this point, all are outside of Society hands and control and have been now for almost six weeks.

I am sure there will be those that criticize as well, given this is the IGS. But we are an Empire loyal corporation and we try to adhere to the Empire's laws. Perhaps next time, if there is one which i pray there is not, those who feel they can do better will take down a tower themselves.

I know on the large scale of things in New Eden, 1 million people, and certainly, 24,800 is a drop in the bucket.
Many capsuleers feel they have bigger fish to fry.

As for me, as my late mother told me, I figure it is is better to light a single candle, then to stand cursing the darkness.
Mizhara Del'thul
Kyn'aldrnari
#356 - 2016-03-06 22:36:07 UTC
From the frying pan...
Nicoletta Mithra
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#357 - 2016-03-07 00:16:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nicoletta Mithra
Frying lots of small fish makes a decent dish.
I am the biggest fan of fish fitting small pan.

Rather than chasing white whale, dumbly;
I choose to make my living, humbly.

Unless you cut it down to plan: whale doesn't fit the biggest pan.
And as much as some might wish: neither is a whale - a fish.
Gosakumori Noh
Coven of One
#358 - 2016-03-07 01:57:19 UTC
I understand that Louella has been rescuing people from space for seven years. I'm sure that she has developed considerable experience with stress disorders. It is further my understanding that the Valates adopt blonde women. And I believe they like to experiment on brains. Stress disorders make very interesting brains!

I myself would be more than happy to find placement on soothing vineyards and dairy farms for any refugees left at the Tash Murkon Family facilities in Hilaban.

Furthermore, the Blood Petal Scorpion and I, along with a few dozen tireless Blood Raider Scientists, have made great strides in ameliorating the Not Sebiestor status of Krusual. Ironically, the technique derives in no small part from Krusual biotechnological prowess. If Chadwick is still in need of medical assistance, I am confident that he would now be up to a 42.19% chance of survival. One significant advantage in becoming a lycanthropic Not Sebiestor is that, as the individual is no longer human, toxins and pathogens designed to act upon the human nervous system lose their efficacy.

If whoever has Chadwick finds him too difficult to deal with, you can leave him with me in complete anonymity.
morion
Lighting Build
#359 - 2016-03-07 02:39:03 UTC
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Karmilla Strife
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#360 - 2016-03-07 14:32:05 UTC
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Your aphasia is getting worse dear.